vanessa just posted on the o-board...

[KULPDOGG]

very few artists own their own music... i highly doubt V owns ATM and most likely only owns the copyright on the lyrics etc.  When you're signed to a label they basically own *everything*... the weird thing is VC hasn't trademarked her name or any of the other things that mgmt usually handles... like the VC font.  Even if she leaves the label or they drop her, they will still have to pay her whatever % of what they get for ATM but i don't know how honorable a label is about doing that

well i remember seeing the be not nobody album and a few of her demo tapes on copyright.gov records, but i dont know exactly if that means she owns them completly. :?

anyway.

new website?!? ooo, i hope its better than the current one >_>
gasp! that means all of my 22257 posts will be gone  :?  :oops:
ah well, whatever. :roll:

we might not even get a message board at all. and if we do, it could suck. :x  bleh.

well i'm glad this board isnt going anywhere  :razz:  

[LimeTwister]

I think everyone knew this was coming- and i am just hoping her 'new people' aren't some tiny indie label. I think everyone needs to calm down a bit about the 3rd album- think how long Harmonium took. I am not getting my hopes up.

I kinda like it when they're on indie labels--gives them more freedom.

Patty was dropped from A&M..and she owned her songs but not the recordings...

[Ghisy]

i highly doubt V owns ATM and most likely only owns the copyright on the lyrics etc.

Yeah, I meant she owns the rights to her lyrics, sorry if I didn't make it clear enough.
I've just checked the BnN booklet, it says "all songs published by Rosasharn Publishing/Universal Music, (BMI)"

[DutchNessaHolic]

is it realy this bad???

no offence , but BnN was simply stronger

lets see how the 3rd one does  :wink:

[Will]

Her management should contract out the website, rather than have the label do it. Label run sites suck 95% of the time.

[Chloe]

oh. my. god.

*dies*

*sees third album info*

*rises to life*

but ooooooh poor Vanessa    

[amberbeads]

Nessa is a doll. What a class act.
Here's to the third album :drunk:

[Steveau]

I hope things work out for her, what with the new people, and yada yada.

I hope so, too.

I hate to be the one to speculate, and maybe I was just reading way too much into the post and how she worded stuff, but it sounds like she might be hopping labels real soon. *shrug*

I think we should start a label called NESSAholic Records.  It's a nice thought as unrealistic as it might be.

[zurielshimon]

What a post jampacked with bad news and good news!  I'm rather disappointed that there will be no second single (though I am still pushing "Who's to Say" on local radio stations as hard as I can), but I am hopeful to hear that she's serious about her music and she's not giving up because she knows who her fans are.

And by the way, owning the rights to the songs and the rights to the records are two different things.  Unless she makes the mistake of selling her songs to the wrong person (and anyone but yourself is always the wrong person), she would still have the right to use her songs (i.e., to perform them and promote them and even re-record them), but the records made by A&M are still their property (just as the 'Rinse' recordings are the property of the label that made them, though they never released them).

[High On Lullabies]

Luckily there was a tour but that's pretty much about it.

Sorry to be a moaner, but where was our tour?? Does the emergence of this 3rd album mean she's not coming to the UK after all? I wonder if there is the money to fund her coming over here, if A&M won't fund production and promotion of a 2nd single why should they fund any sort of tour outside the US?
Of course I'm delighted to hear there will be a third album, and that she's not gonna give up just because those idiots at A&M aren't going to give her the promotion and support she deserves. I'd been thinking up until now that because Ron Fair personally produced BNN, that A&M would give Nessa pretty much anything she wanted, that she was special to them. Seems I was very wrong .
Wonder who these 'new people' are, new label? new production team? new band?

[clamicas]

a, 2!, c, 4, 8.....
LMAO!!! :razz:
 :lol:  oh, how I love you, Vanessa  
 

haha I was laughing at that too.

 :lol:  :lol:

[zurielshimon]

i'm writing some killer songs for my 3rd album (most people will know it as my second!)

Call me dumb, but I wonder what she means by most people will know it as her second?

She means that nobody but the true fans bought (and for that matter, even know about) Harmonium.

But us true fans will know it as her fourth album! :wink:

[Scotty]

i'm writing some killer songs for my 3rd album (most people will know it as my second!)

Call me dumb, but I wonder what she means by most people will know it as her second?

She means that nobody but the true fans bought (and for that matter, even know about) Harmonium.

But us true fans will know it as her fourth album! :wink:

but the uber true fans will know it as her fifth album. :wink:

[zurielshimon]

Ah yes, silly me!  One, two, three, four....  That would make VC3 her fifth if you count those.

[Julie]

I just read Vanessa's latest post and I am so mad that they won't let her release another single because they don't think it would do well.  That's such bullshit!  ERR!  I know Vanessa knows that we would always support her. *hugs for Nessa*