Except I sat and listened to Zena spouting the same extremist bullshit that middle eastern muslims spout.
I said who to the what now?
How come I got dragged into this?
*sigh* ..
If Andrew you're referring to our discussion way back when to the war of Israel on Lebanon .. you can't just wave these statements around and extend them for any arguement you choose.
My comments then, have nothing to do with now ..
and had NOTHING to do with the fact that I am Muslim.
As a human being with a moral concious what happened in Lebanon was attrocitous. It was Samson and Goliath .. Israel used every ounce of it's military might against the Lebanese civilians .. ignoring every call for cessation of violence .. ignoring international laws of combat .. I mean cluster bombs? Come on ..
Calling me an extremist is so insulting. It not only makes me very sad that you can't differenciate between one thing and another, but it highlights that the whole thing is futile ..
I abhore extremists and extremism, I hate terorists and terrorism I disagree with everything they stand for and what they do, I denounce both with no uncertain terms. I am so ashamed they used my religions name when they commit these terrible disgusting acts ..
I am so sick of people crazy sick men hijacking the name of my religion, my peaceful religion which denounces terrorism and denounces extremism and denounces killing of the innocent for any reason. A religion which promotes true freedom .. free from the desires of being controlled by man made ideologies ..
The root of terrorism is a radical faith that teaches dying to destory your enemies gets you a place in an ideal afterlife. Period. That is the entire root of terrorism.
Get rid of a faith that GLORIFIES violence and suicide attacks and you get rid of terrorism as we know it.
Where do you get your information from?
packoflies.com? letsfoolthegullible.net? Fox?
Islam .. commands love, mercy and peace.
Muslims start everything with "In the name of God most gracious, Most merciful" .. It's the humans that mess everything up not the religion.
Terror, on the other hand, is the opposite of religion; it is cruel, merciless and demands bloodshed and misery. Terrorist act should be sought in disbelief rather than the belief in a religion.
The name or the identity of the triggerman is not important. If he can kill innocent people without blinking an eye, then he just a murderer with no fear of God, whose main ambition is to shed blood and to cause harm.
For this reason, "Islamic terror" is an erronous concept which contradicts the message of Islam. The religion of Islam can by no means countenance terrorism. On the contrary, terror (i.e. murder of innocent people) in Islam is a great sin, and Muslims are responsible for preventing these acts and bringing peace and justice to the world.
http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.comI can't live with certain injustices that I see in the world. My opinions are INDEPENDANT of my religion. (on the by, It was MY journal, and I found it impossible to stay silent when a country I have a connection to thanks to 10 years of spending summers there was facing so much pain and suffering .. )
I am so sick of this so called war on "terror". Having to justify my beliefs because some crazy misinformed loon .. or some poor opressed soul has gone off and done things because he's got his brain wires crossed
But I agree with Andrew .. what a silly bunch of people .. how they get riled up about every single little comment .. sweating the small stuff .. why can't they set the track straight leading by example?
The pope apologised .. That's it! It should have ended there ..
We all know that in the refence time frame of what the pope said, there was never any organized attempt to force the acceptance of Islam on the non-Muslim population, or of any systematic persecution intended to stamp out the Christian religion.
And that wars to conqur lands we normal all countries fought to gain control of other countries and land .. gosh we're still doing it NOW! 15 centuaries later!!! Why should we single out one incident?.. at least Islam gave the inhabitants rights .. The life and property of all citizens in an Islamic state are considered sacred whether the person is Muslim or not.
Why do they have to go all psycho when all they have to do is lead by exapmle?
We all know that Muhammed came at a truely ugly time in human history .. and brought about many positive things ..
http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch10.htmlSo what does it matter what one pope quotes one archaic Byzantin emporor?
There are so many issues in this thread I don't even know what to say ..
But .. for goodness sake .. the pope apologised, and the whole world is over it.
And that Andrew .. wow .. I didn't realise you hated Muslim people so much and I didn't realise were so ignorant of them ..
or maybe you just read what ever you want to read and never scratch the surface .. I don't kow! But really .. wow!
But i'm so disappointed .. maybe if people like you listened and saw things with your heart instead of with an aggressive head ..
And people actually listened to people like me instead of accusing me of spouting off like an extremist ..
No. but it would be safe to say that the "crazy fuckin' poor and uneducated are at fault." Because that is one thing the vast majority of violent criminals have in common.
Sure .. then why can't entertain that same though for Muslim people ...
These crazy fanatics act independant of any sanity or any religion ..
I tell you what the 1.5 Billion muslims aren't going anywhere soon .. And since it is the fastest growing religion .. understanding dialoug and tolerance might be a good thing .. maybe the world can reflect on the current crisis in the world, and think of how to make it fair for everyone rather than pulling out some random quote from 6 centuraries ago ..
I believe the Muslim mainstream will be the most powerful weapon in the "war on terror".
It is a good idea therefore separate extremists from moderates ..
Maybe the time is when people quit focusing on what muslims do .. but rather on what they should be doing? I give them examples of what their Prophets did .. Jesus was a prophet of ours .. and he taught great things .. Muhammed taught great things too .. I think that's what leaders and people should be doing .. rather than critisizing and pointing the finger ..
Remind Muslims that a religion of peace calls on people to be peaceful and act peacefully and that they are obliged to live by the laws of the country that they live in. And a religion that invites you to contempate shouldn't have it's believers following blindly one cause or person without using instincts and common sense .. instead of always attacking them
The majority of us are ok ;-)
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