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11/12/2007: The Plaza Club - Vancouver, BC, Canada (review)
« on: November 13, 2007, 10:38:52 pm »
Hey Wow Vanessa's good... and i seen Vanessa and Victor on the street i did not feel like bugging her... but at the show i did say you rock V and Vanessaaaaaaaaa and Vanessa you rock again haha it was fun  the show rocked  the songs she performed was the same as the show's be for and the violinist was there he was looking at me all the time haha... pic's and one video Vanessa Carlton - all is well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTstta-kCTk i have 18 pic's on http://www.myspace.com/toxichotel8 you need to add me to see them

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11/12/2007: The Plaza Club - Vancouver, BC, Canada (review)
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2007, 12:02:17 am »
Just out of curiosity, how many people showed up?  

I don't know about you, but I don't think that Vanessa is exactly huge here in Vancouver  (I don't even think "Nolita Fairytale" is on the radio)


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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2007, 12:18:51 am »
Preface
I went to the show last night.  Let me preface this by apologizing for this long winded review of the show and "Heroes & Thieves".  I've broken it down into sections to make it easier to read, and so you don't have to trudge through my ramblings if you only want to know how the concert was.  Also, I'd like to say that I never was a fan of Vanessa at the early stages of her career.  I liked “A Thousand Miles” when it came out, as well as “Ordinary Day”, but not enough to check out “Be Not Nobody”.  These songs became a part of history on some mix tape that I made back in high school.  “Harmonium” went completely under the radar for me, and Vanessa had fallen off the face of the earth, as far as I was concerned.

Introduction
A month ago, I heard Vanessa had released another album to some critical acclaim.  I was intrigued by this since I was wondering how she had progressed as a song writer and the mention of a collaboration with Stevie Nicks surely caught my attention.  I downloaded the album, and I was filled with joy on the first listen.  This could have been mistaken for the temporary joy that most sugarcoated pop brings, but I think that the fact that I have been listening to it addictively for the past month defeats that notion.  I believe that this joy was not only inspired by the songwriting on the album, but moreso by the revival of an artist that I thought had fallen off the face of the earth.  I immediately bought a pair of tickets to the show when I heard there was a Vancouver date, and I rarely attend concerts.

Also, I’m the type of person who only buys albums for artists that I respect and support – even though I may only ever listen to the CD once, since I already have it on my iPod, I went out to the record store (a very rare occasion, believe me), and rummaged through the store to find a copy of “Heroes & Thieves”.  It was nowhere to be found in the best sellers section, and I couldn’t even find a placeholder for “Vanessa Carlton” under the pop/rock section.  I was ready to walk out of the store, but decided to file through the CDs under “The Cars”.  Sure enough, this treasure of a record was buried in there.  By the way, this happened twenty minutes before the show.  Anyway, on with the show.

The Concert
The turnout was pretty lame; I'd say 150 people in a venue that could hold 550 to 600.  The club had stools along the bar, and after the first opening act, practically everyone moved their stools up to the front of the stage - a stark contrast to the standing room only show in the Seattle the night before.  I felt for the performers because crossing the border to play in Vancouver is an inconvenience, and many artists skip over Canadian stops.  This was probably a night where the tour lost money, or broke even at best.

That said, all of the performers still put on really good shows.  Graham tried to get the crowd going, but they weren't really feeling it.  He pointed out a person in the front row who was texting someone on their phone during his set, and you could tell that it only added to the frustration of playing for an abismal audience.  I liked his single, "The First Week", but didn't know he just released a new CD.  He's a great performer, and I couldn't help but smile when he started rockin' out "Summer of '69" by Bryan Adams (a Canadian music icon, FYI) - too bad he only knew the first part of it.  The audience got a little more excited as Vanessa's set grew nearer and as Graham pumped it up.

I’m not too sure about the order of songs, but the set list was the same as the Seattle show.

Nolita Fairytale
Hands on Me
Heroes & Thieves
Ordinary Day
My Best
C'est La Vie
Who's To Say
Half A Week Before The Winter
The One (on Piano)
White Houses
All Is Well
Fools Like Me
Home

**encore**

A Thousand Miles
More Than This

Stupidly, I didn't bring a camera so forgive me for the lack of audio/visual documentation.  There was a backdrop of lights which I think was a new addition, because later Vanessa said something about them finally getting the lights up, and that "it's all about the friggin' lights".  The lights definitely gave the concert a nice ambiance.  It's all about the friggin' lights, indeed.

Vanessa came on with Skye at 10:00pm to the loudest cheer of the night, thus far.  This was my first time seeing Vanessa live, although I have been checking out the videos from the tour so far on YouTube.  The videos certainly don't do her justice.  Her voice was a lot more powerful and her intonation was much better than the videos led me to believe.  To be honest, I was skeptical of the acoustic set and the lack of a full band up until I heard the first song.  By the end of "Nolita Fairytale", I was definitely feeling the "naked" sound of the songs.

She made a comment about this being her first time in Vancouver before going into "Hands on Me", at which point I couldn't help but think, "Nice first impression, Vancouver.  150 people, how pathetic.  This may be the last time she comes to Vancouver."

At this point, I was really sympathetic for her because of the poor turnout, but Vanessa lightened up the mood by commenting that the lights on the ceiling in the club looking like dildos.  She must have noticed while "searching for stage lights".  It garnered a chuckle from the audience, and I thought it was definitely appropriate being a 19+ show (19 being the legal drinking age in Canada, a fact that tourism Canada should probably make better known).  Most of the audience looked like they were in the mid-20s anyway.

What amazed me the most for the first half of the show was how she was playing her heart out despite the lack of an audience.  There was a little stumble in “Heroes & Thieves”, I think; however, I think it was after “C’est La Vie” that she divulged to the audience that she recently discovered pomegranate infused vodka, with a bit of a giggle.  By “Half a Week Before the Winter”, I think that the vodka was kicking in because she missed several notes, granted it is one of her more complex songs.  I became anxious again, hoping that the wheels wouldn’t fall off.  She wasn’t as tight as she could have been on “The One”, which was too bad because it’s one of my favourites.

She recovered nicely with “White Houses”, which she commented was the “uncensored” version.  I wasn’t aware that the song was censored when it was released.  Unfortunately, things started to unravel towards the end.  “Fools Like Me” was interrupted at the beginning because she forgot the lyrics, and someone shouted “For me!”, at the beginning of “Home”, causing Vanessa to start the song with “For me…”.  It was anticlimactic, since “Home” was one of the numbers I was looking forward to the most.  At this point, my heart went out to Vanessa.

After a brief moment, she and Skye returned for the encore.  The opening notes to “A Thousand Miles” riled up the audience – the loudest cheer of the night, by far (more on this later).  She played the song beautifully, but the highlight of the night for me was the flawless performance of “More Than This”, Vanessa’s best work without a doubt in my mind.

I would have stayed after the show to vocalize the following thoughts to Vanessa, but I couldn’t find a willing companion to go to the show with so I dragged my brother to go, and I thought it would be cruel to make him hang around after the show.  So, a message board post will have to do, even if Vanessa may never read it.

Post-concert Rant
I see “Heroes & Thieves” as a rejuvenation of Vanessa’s career and every time I listen to the album I get that same rush as the first time I heard it.  Since then, I have listened to “Be Not Nobody” and “Harmonium” but neither has caught my ear the way that that “Heroes…” has.  I definitely relate more with the latest album because it is more contemporary with my life, but I completely agree with Vanessa that this is her best work yet.  I’ve read what critics and some fans have said about the latest album being a disappointment, about how it doesn’t even compare with her first two albums.  I understand where the devoted fans are coming from.  “Heroes…” is a departure from her earlier work, which may be perceived as a disappointment.  I see it as the progression of an artist, and a triumph.  

Which brings me back to the cheers and screams for “A Thousand Miles”, and a review that bagged her performance at a concert in Las Vegas.  Yes, it is a great song and I’m sure there is much nostalgia associated with the song for people, but she has released a fantastic new album since then, as well as an album and several singles in between.  I’m sure that she gets tired of being known as the girl who wrote and sings “A Thousand Miles”.  Following the song with “More Than This” was very appropriate.  There is such a stark contrast, and her progression as an artist is so evident.  I wish that the people who still only know her for “A Thousand Miles” would take a good hard listen to “Heroes & Thieves”.

Don't live in forgotten times
May this always remind you of the sea under the skies
blue looking glass

Let’s make this our story, let’s live in the glory.
Time, it fades away, precious as a song,
Cause someday we’ll be gone

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11/12/2007: The Plaza Club - Vancouver, BC, Canada (review)
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 01:02:34 am »
Thanks for the review!

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11/12/2007: The Plaza Club - Vancouver, BC, Canada (review)
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 01:23:33 am »
Fantastic review!

Thanks for taking the time out to post up your experience & thoughts, and well done for finally checking out V's music!

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 09:41:34 am »
150???

why does she play at these large places and expect to have such a large turnout?? why doesn't she play NYC and not Joes Pub that hold 20 people?  why doesn't she play a large venue in NY and a smaller ones else where?

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2007, 10:30:40 am »
Good review brendanm sorry i'm never good at that stuff it's to bad no one really love's her here the  bad thing is it was just me Singing all the way through   :(

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2007, 04:25:51 pm »
thanks for the review...that sucks about the turnout... :(

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2007, 07:38:25 pm »
Vancouver people are lame! I guess that's a generalization but this show's attendees were super lame. First, they shouldn't have the drinking age at 19 because people clearly aren't mature enough to handle it. Vanessa even congratulated them for being able to drink at 19.

Broads were totally climbing on the stage to get a picture while V was playing. Not to mention yelling her name, trying to get her attention as she was singing. Also, yelling for songs that she already played. Or asking for them as she is in the middle of starting one that is super intense. Yeah, seriously, lame!

Despite it all, like I told the border guy when he asked where we were coming from, what show and how it was, the show was great, amazing, incredible fun.

Anyway. Here's Nolita Fairytale and My Best.

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 07:41:11 pm »
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Vancouver people are lame! I guess that's a generalization but this show's attendees were super lame. First, they shouldn't have the drinking age at 19 because people clearly aren't mature enough to handle it. Vanessa even congratulated them for being able to drink at 19.

Broads were totally climbing on the stage to get a picture while V was playing. Not to mention yelling her name, trying to get her attention as she was singing. Also, yelling for songs that she already played. Or asking for them as she is in the middle of starting one that is super intense. Yeah, seriously, lame!

Despite it all, like I told the border guy when he asked where we were coming from, what show and how it was, the show was great, amazing, incredible fun.

Anyway. Here's Nolita Fairytale and My Best.


Oh god...that sounded like a pretty weird night....
19? lol maybe that means the drinking age in my province will be going up soon....right now its 18.

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2007, 09:07:06 pm »
Yeah. It took all I had not to beat her down. I figured it would distract V more if I did anything. I attempted to motion to the security dude who clearly wasn't doing his job as he let her get on the stage, not once but twice. Here's More Than This. You can hear the broad calling V's name and requesting Nolita Fairytale, then about 2:06/2:07 I moved the camera as she was getting her picture taken because seriously, I couldn't even believe it was happening. Oh and in the beginning you can hear drunk broad #1 and drunk broad #2 talking to each other trying to get their pictures taken. So freakin' lame.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2007, 09:10:05 pm »
good video's eclv my video is shit

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 09:25:01 pm »
I was standing in the back, so I couldn't hear or see the shenanigans that were occuring by the stage.  No wonder she was distracted.  I'm thankful that I was able to see Vanessa's first, and probably last, show in Vancouver.

Thanks for posting the videos.

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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 09:53:52 pm »
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Yeah. It took all I had not to beat her down. I figured it would distract V more if I did anything. I attempted to motion to the security dude who clearly wasn't doing his job as he let her get on the stage, not once but twice. Here's More Than This. You can hear the broad calling V's name and requesting Nolita Fairytale, then about 2:06/2:07 I moved the camera as she was getting her picture taken because seriously, I couldn't even believe it was happening. Oh and in the beginning you can hear drunk broad #1 and drunk broad #2 talking to each other trying to get their pictures taken. So freakin' lame.


oh my...that was absolutely retarded..what dumbassess....



aneways, thanks for the video :)

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2007, 11:28:46 pm »
OMG! That is insane! I guess there is something to be said about security. I have always been very appreciative to V for not having so much security - I am usually able to bring in my huge Canon 20D with its 300mm lens and take nice photos (knock on wood for my next concert) and people are usually able to bring in audio recorders and cameras with video....awesome for us fans but most artists don't allow this.

I never thought about it, but I guess it can go too far in the other way. I really hope these stupid people don't push V to be more strict with her security and start forbidding cameras and recorders....

Oh, and thanks for the vid. I actually think that in this live version she sang MUCH more on key than on the record and I enjoyed it so much better without the noises that made me want to cring. Why couldn't the take have been better on the CD? Sigh!!!