I don't like the Green party for the same reason I feared to vote for Gore. I didn't want the main and overwhelming objective of our country to be expensive enviromental projects. The only reason I voted for them before was because of Nader. I figured at least the Green party was not as bad as Gore. With Gore as president, or so it seemed to me, you wouldn't be able to walk on your front lawn legally because it would be protected under the federal list of protected habitats. ( :wink: to all the democrats)
tylor
Actually, i think you are failing to see the real and significant problem America is causing itself and the rest of the world by refusing to look harder at environmental issues.
I think there are priorities higher than environmental issues. I felt Gore would have gone way overboard. As far as the Kyoto treaty goes, there were things in it you can't seriously expect us to take seriously. It's no wonder we refuse to look.
I was into environmental issues back in the eighties. I was totally into it. You have no idea. But it started to become more of a fad and social movement. It became more of a subjective issue rather than a objective issue. People began to emote rather than think. Environmentalism is a modern day crusade. Go hug your trees. I'll help them --if need be.
tylor
Oh, so just about everyone else in the world signing Kyoto isn't good enough for you? "there were things you can't seriously expect us to take seriously." well EVERYONE ELSE DID. I don't see why Bush and clearly you have a problem with accepting that America must fall in line with these things even more so than any other country, but somehow you think you're too powerful for that- America is the number one producer of pollution in the world, and one of the few left to fail to combat it.
You obviously don't know know what my thoughts are. You make all these general assumptions. I can tell you I'm no ordinary american. I'm certainly not a bigot, thank god. I know how people might think that --I know how the typical american is compared to the rest of the world. I know because I used to, at one time, have nothing but foreign freinds from just about every continent (no one from Anatartica :razz: )
I base my thoughts not on how powerful America is, but on how weak it is. Need an example? Take our national debt. That is one chunk of change. Our social security system, which was running into the ground even before the war, is another. Two things which could be considered strenghts, our standard of living and our military could even be considered weaknesses when viewed from certain perspectives.
When I first heard about the Kyoto treaty I became excited. For one, everyone knows what a nut I am about everything japanese, and two, it seemed on the surface to be a great opportunity for progress for environmental issues around the world. But because of views similar to the one you just made, the treaty was not a fair and equal treaty. America would have stiffer restrictions while other countries would have practically none. Interestingly enough to point out, some of which are asian countries where many of our manufacturing jobs have gone, and which don't regulate themselves, or attempt to regulate themselves, to the same degree as WE at least try. In some instances they burn coal in the open air.
Want to see jobs be sucked even faster out of this country? Sign the treaty.
tylor
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