long distance relationships

[NoelleNC]

edit: I didnt' read your last post. Well if you've both discussed it and think it's not the right time in your lives to be starting anything, maybe just make an effort to keep in touch and don't just throw it by the wayside. Maybe in a few years you guys can try!

[NoelleNC]

uh yeah, i should probably read everything people say before I comment and just reiterate what they've already decided upon. Wooo, Noelle.  

[Grakthis]

Long distance relationships cannot work in the long term unless BOTH parties are so pathetic they cannot find anyone else.

I take exception to that. I get hit on so much that it isn't even funny. Hell, I've been tempted once or twice by it. She has been too. Why do I stay with her when I could so easily get a girlfriend who lives closer to me? Simply because she's so different from everyone else I've ever dated. There is something special I have with her that I've never had before. Yeah, I really wanna be able to kiss and cuddle again. However, physical stuff isn't all there is to a relationship. There is something more that Mandi and I have that I've never felt before.

Yeah, I could go fishing for a girlfriend and find a reasonably attractive one in under a week. Would I want to? No. I wouldn't trade what I have for anything.

Oh yeah... it's been going on for 2.5 years.

You couldn't get laid at an asian massage parlor.  My dog gets hit on by more women, and he's neutered.

I think Pete gets more play than you.

Actually, I have no real opinion on your relationship with Mandi as I don't really know either of you.  All I can say is that there are 2 options.

1) You are incapable of divorcing yourself from your feelings enough to properly assess the situation or
2) You are an exception to human nature.

And exceptions DO happen.  But frankly, I'm not taking a 90% chance of failure and having my ego stomped on when she cheats on me for a 10% chance of it working.  And anyone who DOES take those odds....well, probably works in the music industry.

First off there is no way we would cheat on each other, i trust her and she trusts me

Second off i see her once a month for usually 4 days

Thirdly i spent years in horrible relationships, im just not easy to get along with, I never planned on being with Noelle, we just talked so much and i realized she is someone i would really like to be with

Fourth i know plenty of girls, And they arent ugly or losers, they just could never be as good to me or as enjoyable for me to hang out with as Noelle is/has been


fifth.... i get more play than you, andrew
 :razz:

1) Trust means dick.  Wives and husbands cheat ALL the time.  I recently found out some of the most happily married people I know cheated at some point.  It's kinda disturbing.

2) I admited there were exceptions.  But they don't invalidate the rule.

3) Meh.  Define more.  I bet I get a larger variety

[Logikal X]

Well if thats how you feel about trust i feel bad for the woman who someday puts her trust in you.  I can say with 100% confidence that neither of us will cheat.

[Steveau]

Well if thats how you feel about trust i feel bad for the woman who someday puts her trust in you.  I can say with 100% confidence that neither of us will cheat.

you can't even say with a 100% confidence that you'll be here tomorrow I don't know how you can have 100% confidence in another person's actions. I guess ignorance is bliss.

[Holly]

haha, it's ok Noelle!

yeah... we're definitely going to keep in touch, and if we find our selves in the same place, or nearby in the future and we're both single, maybe we'll try something! but regardless, i see him as always being a close friend.

[Grakthis]

Well if thats how you feel about trust i feel bad for the woman who someday puts her trust in you.  I can say with 100% confidence that neither of us will cheat.

No you can't.

Pete, you desperatly need to learn a lesson in both statistics and human nature.

Nothing is impossible.  Everything has a small % chance of occuring.

There is an extremely small % chance that I will spontaneously generate complete omniscience in 5 minutes.

You can be 100% certian of only ONE thing.  The existince of your own self.  Nothing else is certain.

[Katia's Lover]

My mom and dad were married for 26 years.  Then he cheated.  

This man was 43, had a family, a nice house, and a nice job.  He bought a fucking hooker on a street corner, and then had two girlfriends spread out over a year.  

Keep thinking that the person will never cheat on you, and you can trust them until the bitter end.

Just prepare to be burned.

[Logikal X]

steveau having optimism isnt ignorance.  Also the fact that i cant 100% say i will be on this earth tommorrow is something that i cannot control.  However cheating is something i can control.  So your statement is relatively weak

[Logikal X]

Im deleting these because i have nothing to prove to people in the internet.  None of you know anything about Noelle or me.  Ill just say we both have very strong morals and are way more unlikely to cheat than your average person.

[BWilli]

now this is some interesting convo.


i have no experience in a long distance relationship, but i'd say it's atleast worth a shot.

it seems that some people have had horrible experiences with it (i.e. andrew) and some good (i.e. the man, the myth, the legend Pete)

you never know for yourself unless you try it out.

[Logikal X]

now this is some interesting convo.


i have no experience in a long distance relationship, but i'd say it's atleast worth a shot.

it seems that some people have had horrible experiences with it (i.e. andrew) and some good (i.e. the man, the myth, the legend Pete)

you never know for yourself unless you try it out.

This is another case.  I know the type of person Brian is.  I dont know his gf well anough to say anything about her.  I just know he is the type of person that would never cheat on his gf.  Some people have strong morals and you can tell.   Just because there is a possibility that everyone will cheat somehow or another doesnt mean i should prepare to be burned or im ignorant for having 100% optimism about my current relationship.  


And for the record since i was too pissed to make it clear; 100% confidence isnt a 100% guarantee, It just means i feel i know her morals and i trust her enough to say that in this case its not going to happen and ill take that shit right to the grave.  If it does im not going to be the one who cheats and i have never cheated or even felt the desire.  Its just the way i am.

[NoelleNC]

I just woke up so I'm not that articulate right now, but sometimes in life it's best to just believe in something rather doubt everything. It brings some stability. But aside from that, Pete is right. I won't ever cheat. Unless some guys fell on top of me on accident and his lips knocked into me (which would probably leave me toothless), I would never purposely cheat- and that isn't even cheating, that's just an unfortunate accident! If I felt the urge to I would just end my current relationship before it became a problem, but I honestly never see that happening. I only trust and really enjoy myself around people I know extremely well and I would never get to know a guy better than Pete because there is no reason to do that, thus I would never even have the chance to develop the urge to cheat. I am not the kind of person who picks up and drops people. I make friends a few friends for life and that's just how I am... you shouldn't doubt Pete so much. I can vouch he is correct.

I love you Pete, don't let them bother you!!

[BWilli]

now this is some interesting convo.


i have no experience in a long distance relationship, but i'd say it's atleast worth a shot.

it seems that some people have had horrible experiences with it (i.e. andrew) and some good (i.e. the man, the myth, the legend Pete)

you never know for yourself unless you try it out.

This is another case.  I know the type of person Brian is.  I dont know his gf well anough to say anything about her.  I just know he is the type of person that would never cheat on his gf.  Some people have strong morals and you can tell.   Just because there is a possibility that everyone will cheat somehow or another doesnt mean i should prepare to be burned or im ignorant for having 100% optimism about my current relationship.  


And for the record since i was too pissed to make it clear; 100% confidence isnt a 100% guarantee, It just means i feel i know her morals and i trust her enough to say that in this case its not going to happen and ill take that shit right to the grave.  If it does im not going to be the one who cheats and i have never cheated or even felt the desire.  Its just the way i am.

you are correct sir...    

liz and i have been together for along time now (of course it's diff. b/c we're not in a long distance relationship) but I know that she'd never cheat on me and i'd never cheat on her.  that's just the way it is and the way we are.

[Steveau]

steveau having optimism isnt ignorance.  Also the fact that i cant 100% say i will be on this earth tommorrow is something that i cannot control.  However cheating is something i can control.  So your statement is relatively weak

thinking anything is 100% is not optimism, it's delusional.

Can you say you'll never commit suicide not knowing if someday you might experience the kind of pain that might make you rather die? I know I don't believe in suicide but I can't say 100% that I wouldn't do it because I can imagine a point where it could be a possibility. It's just being realistic.