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does anyone have any good songwriting tips?
« on: July 21, 2005, 10:02:56 pm »
i was just wondering how you guys go about writing songs...i'm sure most of you write about your own life experiences, which i believe is the best way to right a song. but when you write one, how do you go about doing it? do you think about how to make this line rhyme and that line rhyme and whatnot? also something else i've been concerned with, writing piano melodies. how do you guys do that as well? do these melodies just pop into your head and you can transfer them onto paper? i would really love to write a song and write a piano melody to it.

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2005, 10:30:57 pm »
i pretty much do exactly what you just said.


Just let it come to you. Don't think too much.


That is the first step.

Check out my new(old) song.

http://rapidshare.de/files/3242633/Prisoner_to_a_Park_Bench.mp3.html

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 10:47:03 am »
thank you :D is that what you do for songwriting, piano or both? lol i have a thinking problem, i always have to think about what i'm doing. it drives me mad sometimes!!

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 10:47:43 am »
for the piano, I let my hands and my ears guide the song

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2005, 12:13:15 pm »
Quote from: "pianoboy303"
thank you :D is that what you do for songwriting, piano or both? lol i have a thinking problem, i always have to think about what i'm doing. it drives me mad sometimes!!


Ok, I have that same exact problem...and it makes it a little tough to write your own songs.  HOWEVER, you can do it!  

The way I think about writing music (when I just HAVE to think about it), I start off with an interesting chord progression--and go from there.  Lyrically, I get a LOT of inspiration from other artists.  I study WHY I think Vanessa's lyrics are so touching...what makes them special?  Then I focus on the song I'm about to write and ask myself what the main point I'm trying to make is.  EVERYTHING you write needs to support that point.  I hate it when songs contradict themselves.  It's also good to think of specific, descriptional lines...for instance, if it's a song about breaking up with someone, you might want to refer to the scene of the breakup, the time and place, the color of your ex's shirt, etc.  Just stuff LIKE that.  It paints a picture for the listener.  Also, please be original.  I beg you!  Try to say "normal" things in an abnormal, special way.  I love clever lyrics!  

Hope this helps!   :D
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 12:27:23 pm »
"Melody first, and then the lyrics."  - Benny Andersson 8)
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 01:36:36 pm »
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"Melody first, and then the lyrics."  - Benny Andersson 8)


I TOTALLY agree with this.   :D
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2005, 04:37:43 pm »
Let other musicians influence the way you write stuff too, I used to have so much trouble writing lyrics because I felt they just sounded dumb, but after I listened to certain words that other artists used that went well with eachother you sorta store them up and use them when you need them to get nice rhmes (spelled that wrong)  And if you are having trouble finding a melody, try getting someone elses melody stuck in your head and build a song off that, I wrote lyrics to V's "Ordinary Day" after I got the melody stuck in my head, but at the time I didn't know the lyrics to it, so I wrote my own and used those for a later song...  Writing will be easy if you just wait for it, but some people just can't do it...think outside the box...and wait for inspiration, because it will come to you.  (And yeah writing does have a lot to do with personal experiences, and empathy)
Hoped that helped in anyway...

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2005, 11:13:29 pm »
Benny Anderssen from ABBA, of course. Who doesn't love ABBA?

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2005, 10:59:44 am »
i have the sme problem as pianoboy at writing piano parts...my lyrics are personal. or sometimes a line pops into my tiny head I build off that.

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2005, 11:41:24 am »
It's funny, because I usually go about "trying" to write a song on piano and it fails and then i'll hit something randomly after I think I'm almost about to give up and I'm like hey that's nice and I just elaborate. I try to always put down the music before the words because if I try to do words first I tend to have problems fitting the right tone to the music to fit the words. However if I have the music first I can write lyrics that fit the tone :)

I am definitely no expert though and I don't even usually like my songs. I can only seem to write sad, plaintive songs, nothing happy or quite that catchy... haha.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 02:25:56 pm »
Well, I must owe my lyrics to the fact that I'm bipolar and schizo.
Hahaaa.
Seriously.
I can only write when I'm in an episode...
Cause I start going into mania where you start rhyming your speech and talking all weird.
So then I just write it down and people like reading it.
*shrug*
So, get a mental disorder??
Hee kidding.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2005, 11:03:23 am »
Bipolar and schizo?? Lol... what a combo

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2005, 06:03:34 pm »
Hm, I mess around on the keyboard. I'll usually play some random lick and be like "hey that sounds cool" so I just expand upon it and make it a song. It's the expanding part that is hard.. But then again this advice doesn't really work for you since you want to write songs with lyrics.. I just write instrumental stuff...

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2005, 09:26:28 am »
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Bipolar and schizo?? Lol... what a combo


Aye, it can be quite rough sometimes...


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