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Do you support President Bush's decision to nominate Harriet Miers to the Surpreme Court?

Yes, I have confidence in my president's decision
4 (28.6%)
No, she is underqualified
10 (71.4%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: October 24, 2005, 02:52:36 pm

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« on: October 24, 2005, 02:52:36 pm »
Harriet Miers is the new nominee to the Surpeme Court some bipartisan facts:

1. she is in favor of overturning Roe Vs. Wade
2. She has never been a judge
3. She did not fill out her recent questionarre properly and is being asked to fill it out again
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2005, 03:38:03 pm »
My reason is easy: Michael Brown. Need I say more?

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 04:36:33 pm »
Well, your fact #1 is actually a positive. Regardless of what one thinks about abortion, Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided. The decision basically said abortion is a constitutional right because it is part of a person's right to privacy, a right only implied in the US Constitution. While I'm quite a fan of the 9th Amendment, this line of thinking is crazy. One could argue, using this reasoning, that there is a constitutional right to murder somebody to protect your own privacy.

If Roe were overturned, abortion wouldn't necessarily become criminalized again. It would then be up to the states to determine whether or not abortion should be legal and they would determine under what circumstances it could or could not be performed. That's the way it should be. The Constitution doesn't say anything about abortion. Under the 10th Amendment, the feds shouldn't even be butting their nose in the issue. Abortion certainly isn't a constitutional right.

That being said, Miers' qualifications are not anywhere near where they should be to earn a seat on the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2005, 05:12:41 pm »
Oh My God Will,

We AGREED on SOMETHING!

I agree that Roe V. Wade was one of the most poorly written and backed up Supreme court decisions, its boundaries are on the fuzzy side.  I also happen to agree that it should be a states rights issue.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 05:14:52 pm »
and that she is completely incompetitant and underqualified in a Judicial position at almost every level, not to mention the highest.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2005, 09:22:20 pm »
Quote from: "GeNuInEwAnNaBe69"
and that she is completely incompetitant and underqualified in a Judicial position at almost every level


Given her litigation experience, she'd probably make an excellent ALJ. She'd also probably be good in a district court. She's not the moron you make her out to be. The current members of the Supreme Court have graduated near the top of their classes at some of the most excellent law schools in the nation. Miers graduated from Southern Methodist University without much in the way of distinction. I don't doubt she is a qualified lawyer. She most likely is. That is what her record indicates. She has even received numerous honors for her practice. I'm saying that her record is way below par when comparing it to the records of those who have held positions on the court in recent history.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2005, 10:25:07 pm »
She's not catholic. :(

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 02:15:27 pm »
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She's not catholic.


Not quite seeing the connection between qualification and religion here.

Will, I don't doubt her abilities as a lawyer, she has proven herself by keeping both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. from being brought to justice.  In that respect she is crafty. She should learn to work her way up the ladder,  going through the different court levels, if she gets this seat, which is not looking too keen to have her, it will be one of the worst mistakes the current federal government will have made, only being beat out by Bush's war, and it is his war.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2005, 05:26:02 am »
WASHINGTON - Harriet Miers withdrew her nomination to be a Supreme Court justice Thursday in the face of stiff opposition and mounting criticism about her qualifications.

President Bush said he reluctantly accepted her decision to withdraw, after weeks of insisting that he did not want her to step down. He blamed her withdrawal on calls in the Senate for the release of internal White House documents that the administration has insisted were protected by executive privilege.

"It is clear that senators would not be satisfied until they gained access to internal documents concerning advice provided during her tenure at the White House — disclosures that would undermine a president's ability to receive candid counsel," Bush said. "Harriet Miers' decision demonstrates her deep respect for this essential aspect of the constitutional separation of powers — and confirms my deep respect and admiration for her."

Miers' surprise withdrawal stunned Washington on a day when the capital was awaiting news on another front — the possible indictment of senior White House aides in the CIA leak case.

Miers notified Bush of her decision at 8:30 p.m., according to a senior White House official who said the president will move quickly to find a new nominee.

In her letter dated Thursday, Miers said she was concerned that the confirmation process "would create a burden for the White House and our staff that is not in the best interest of the country."

She noted that members of the Senate had indicated their intention to seek documents about her service in the White House in order to judge whether to support her nomination to the Supreme Court. "I have been informed repeatedly that in lieu of records, I would be expected to testify about my service in the White House to demonstrate my experience and judicial philosophy," she wrote.

"While I believe that my lengthy career provides sufficient evidence for consideration of my nomination, I am convinced the efforts to obtain Executive Branch materials and information will continue."

Miers' nomination has been under withering criticism ever since Bush announced her selection on Oct. 3. There were widespread complaints about her lack of legal credentials, doubts about her ability and assertions of cronyism because of her longtime association with Bush.

Most recently she has been Bush's White House counsel. Bush said that with her withdrawal, she would remain as counsel. He did not indicate when he would name a successor.

"My responsibility to fill this vacancy remains," Bush said in a statement. "I will do so in a timely manner."

Before Bush chose Miers on Oct. 3, speculation focused on Miers and two other Bush loyalists: Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Bush's longtime friend who would be the first Hispanic on the court; and corporate lawyer Larry Thompson, who was the government's highest ranking black law enforcement official as deputy attorney general during Bush's first term.

Other candidates mentioned frequently included conservative federal appeals court judges J. Michael Luttig, Priscilla Owen, Karen Williams, Alice Batchelder and Samuel Alito; Michigan Supreme Court justice Maura Corrigan; and Maureen Mahoney, a well-respected litigator before the high court.

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2005, 04:30:57 pm »
Finally! :o
Ok, Poll's over. :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2005, 07:04:51 pm »
She's out! :)

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