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Vanessa Carlton => Vanessa Songs / Lyrics / Sheet Music => Topic started by: blueglove on March 08, 2009, 07:48:10 pm
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WALTZ (Instrumental 2008-2010)
Links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4lXQywhIic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4lXQywhIic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF7FlSHVNk&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF7FlSHVNk&feature=channel_page)
Tall Tales for Spring
Links:
- Premiere Nashville June 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK7LKc3K9eU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK7LKc3K9eU)
LYRICS
God rest his head Sunday afternoon, and
The wicked in me is surly the wicked in you
We pray to a ghost that we've never met
Time turns for a cure, from the scientists for
Madness, madness of the heart
but you knew it,
you knew it from the start
And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
Our eyes hold the chaos that stared everything
Maybe it's faith, and the sadness takes hold
Sill stars through the window, will ever know this
Madness, madness of the heart
but you knew it, you knew it from the start
There's a madness, a madness of the heart
but you knew it, you knew it from the start
Stare a sleepy smile into a sunbeam
Cause there's nothing more than a daydream
Colored stained glass cathedral
Confines a past that wont let you go
God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surly coming through
I pray to a ghost that I've never met
Still searching for someway out of this mess
It's the heart
It's the heart
And there is a madness, a madness in the stars
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
Hmmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmm
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March 16, 2009-Hotel Cafe Hollywood, CA
video -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF7FlSHVNk&feature=channel_page
mp3 -- http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B0ZRM6ZE
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Just as an update, I changed the name of this topic as the name of the song has changed from Waltz (2008-2010) to tall tales of Spring.
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personally i thought it was "hark, he will tell us no tall tales of spring"
but hawking? like stephen hawking? that's interesting too, especially since v's talked about "time slipping and mind floating" as being a theme for the album. maybe she's been reading some physics-themed books lately.
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(Coerced/ Colors) in glass cathedral
I think that should be "color stained glass cathedral".
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I really like the interpretation as "Coerced in glass Cathedrals" because I feel that the word "coerced" is layered with so much hidden meaning. It adds a really great emotional undercurrent to the song that gives it real power--- especially how that verse goes right back into the "God rest his head" line.
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Her lyrics/songwriting just gets better & better.
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I really like the interpretation as "Coerced in glass Cathedrals" because I feel that the word "coerced" is layered with so much hidden meaning. It adds a really great emotional undercurrent to the song that gives it real power--- especially how that verse goes right back into the "God rest his head" line.
Agreed, I hear the other more now that I listen, but I like coerced.
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What "coerced" means?
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What "coerced" means?
Coerce - to cause to do through pressure or necessity, by physical, moral or intellectual means :"She forced him to take a job in the city"; "He squeezed her for information"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
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Thanks ;)
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Sure thing.
"It's the heart
It's the heart
And there is a madness, a madness in the stars
But you knew it, you knew it from the start."
Makes me think of everything the celebrities (the stars, hmm?) are doing because it feels right to them. And that she's talking to herself, saying she knew about it from the start of her career.
But I'm one for the conspiracy theories, me.
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Sure thing.
"It's the heart
It's the heart
And there is a madness, a madness in the stars
But you knew it, you knew it from the start."
Makes me think of everything the celebrities (the stars, hmm?) are doing because it feels right to them. And that she's talking to herself, saying she knew about it from the start of her career.
But I'm one for the conspiracy theories, me.
Interesting theory, i quite like it
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Sure thing.
"It's the heart
It's the heart
And there is a madness, a madness in the stars
But you knew it, you knew it from the start."
Makes me think of everything the celebrities (the stars, hmm?) are doing because it feels right to them. And that she's talking to herself, saying she knew about it from the start of her career.
But I'm one for the conspiracy theories, me.
Interesting theory, i quite like it
I know. It's quite similar in a way to HAWBTW if we view it that way.
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The more I listen to it the more I also hear "color stained glass" ... but I still really prefer coerced! haha...
To me all this talk of stars and science just has a very sci-fi feel to it. To me, asking the stars if they'll ever know this madness is like asking the universe about other intelligent life. And by declaring there's a madness in the stars, it just makes me feel like there's chaos everywhere. I like the feel of those lyrics.
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The more I listen to it the more I also hear "color stained glass" ... but I still really prefer coerced! haha...
To me all this talk of stars and science just has a very sci-fi feel to it. To me, asking the stars if they'll ever know this madness is like asking the universe about other intelligent life. And by declaring there's a madness in the stars, it just makes me feel like there's chaos everywhere. I like the feel of those lyrics.
I agree. Especially when V mentioned 'Hawkings' in the lyrics. I get Physics vibes from it somehow.
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as i listen to this song, think that the lyrics are "talking won't tell us tall tales of spring" as she mentions seeing in the next line and it just seems as if it makes more sense...but i do like the Hawking useage as it adds a nice level of depth and literacy to the song...just a thought.
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
To me, her new stuff is sort of a mashup between the vibes of Be Not Nobody and Harmonium. The diction she uses in her lyrics, the song titles and the actual references within the lyrics (Grandfather clock, porcelain, gardens with rose and jasmine, Hawking) give off a Victorian-esque/old-English vibe. Maybe it's just me, but whatever - I'm in love with all these tracks! Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
To me, her new stuff is sort of a mashup between the vibes of Be Not Nobody and Harmonium. The diction she uses in her lyrics, the song titles and the actual references within the lyrics (Grandfather clock, porcelain, gardens with rose and jasmine, Hawking) give off a Victorian-esque/old-English vibe. Maybe it's just me, but whatever - I'm in love with all these tracks! Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
I agree with you regarding the Victorian vibe. But with the sound, I'm picking up the impression of Heroes & Thieves with the darker elements from Harmonium. With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
To me, her new stuff is sort of a mashup between the vibes of Be Not Nobody and Harmonium. The diction she uses in her lyrics, the song titles and the actual references within the lyrics (Grandfather clock, porcelain, gardens with rose and jasmine, Hawking) give off a Victorian-esque/old-English vibe. Maybe it's just me, but whatever - I'm in love with all these tracks! Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
I agree with you regarding the Victorian vibe. But with the sound, I'm picking up the impression of Heroes & Thieves with the darker elements from Harmonium. With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
YES!!! FINGERS CROSSED!
...and regarding your statement about her sound being a darker version of Heroes & Thieves - I agree! I can totally see that.
Ah, I'm getting so excited!
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
To me, her new stuff is sort of a mashup between the vibes of Be Not Nobody and Harmonium. The diction she uses in her lyrics, the song titles and the actual references within the lyrics (Grandfather clock, porcelain, gardens with rose and jasmine, Hawking) give off a Victorian-esque/old-English vibe. Maybe it's just me, but whatever - I'm in love with all these tracks! Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
I agree with you regarding the Victorian vibe. But with the sound, I'm picking up the impression of Heroes & Thieves with the darker elements from Harmonium. With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
YES!!! FINGERS CROSSED!
...and regarding your statement about her sound being a darker version of Heroes & Thieves - I agree! I can totally see that.
Ah, I'm getting so excited!
LOL ;D
We're just all excited about it. I mean, come on. All the new songs she premiered - London, Fair-Weather Friends, Tall Tales For Spring, and I Don't Want To Be A Bride - were just pure magnificence. I think V has just arrived to her peak of songwriting skills.
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
To me, her new stuff is sort of a mashup between the vibes of Be Not Nobody and Harmonium. The diction she uses in her lyrics, the song titles and the actual references within the lyrics (Grandfather clock, porcelain, gardens with rose and jasmine, Hawking) give off a Victorian-esque/old-English vibe. Maybe it's just me, but whatever - I'm in love with all these tracks! Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
I agree with you regarding the Victorian vibe. But with the sound, I'm picking up the impression of Heroes & Thieves with the darker elements from Harmonium. With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
YES!!! FINGERS CROSSED!
...and regarding your statement about her sound being a darker version of Heroes & Thieves - I agree! I can totally see that.
Ah, I'm getting so excited!
LOL ;D
We're just all excited about it. I mean, come on. All the new songs she premiered - London, Fair-Weather Friends, Tall Tales For Spring, and I Don't Want To Be A Bride - were just pure magnificence. I think V has just arrived to her peak of songwriting skills.
We're just all excited about it. I mean, come on. All the new songs she premiered - London, Fair-Weather Friends, Tall Tales For Spring, and I Don't Want To Be A Bride - were just pure magnificence. I think V has just arrived to her peak of songwriting skills. <- THIS, THIS, THIS! I could not agree more! You're on a roll, sobriquet!
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Just listened to this song with the lyrics... Wow.
Does this remind anyone else of her really early songs, like pre-BNN, demo stuff? Maybe even some similarities to BNN itself?
I love it.
I can't explain how excited her new music (London, Fair-weather friends, IDWBAB and TTFS) make me!!
Bring on the new record!
*goes to listen to Tall Tales For Spring again*
Sarah xx
To me, her new stuff is sort of a mashup between the vibes of Be Not Nobody and Harmonium. The diction she uses in her lyrics, the song titles and the actual references within the lyrics (Grandfather clock, porcelain, gardens with rose and jasmine, Hawking) give off a Victorian-esque/old-English vibe. Maybe it's just me, but whatever - I'm in love with all these tracks! Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
I agree with you regarding the Victorian vibe. But with the sound, I'm picking up the impression of Heroes & Thieves with the darker elements from Harmonium. With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
With the maturity of H&T and uniqueness of Harmonium, ROTR could possibly be her best.
YES!!! FINGERS CROSSED!
...and regarding your statement about her sound being a darker version of Heroes & Thieves - I agree! I can totally see that.
Ah, I'm getting so excited!
LOL ;D
We're just all excited about it. I mean, come on. All the new songs she premiered - London, Fair-Weather Friends, Tall Tales For Spring, and I Don't Want To Be A Bride - were just pure magnificence. I think V has just arrived to her peak of songwriting skills.
We're just all excited about it. I mean, come on. All the new songs she premiered - London, Fair-Weather Friends, Tall Tales For Spring, and I Don't Want To Be A Bride - were just pure magnificence. I think V has just arrived to her peak of songwriting skills. <- THIS, THIS, THIS! I could not agree more! You're on a roll, sobriquet!
LOL. Thanks, Saba. Guess we're just link interconnected with our minds? ;D
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Completely agree. I have a good feeling about this one guys... :)
So does anyone have an overall interpretation of this song's meaning? I'm loving the lyrics, just wish I knew more about what they mean
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Completely agree. I have a good feeling about this one guys... :)
So does anyone have an overall interpretation of this song's meaning? I'm loving the lyrics, just wish I knew more about what they mean
Dang, it's quite hard to figure this one out for me. Really. I mean, it's too poetic to identify its true meaning.
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My idea was maybe it's about her search for her beliefs? Like a religion...Most kids are what their parents are ya know? Meaning that whatever religion their parents are, they are also. So when she talks about the cathedral being a part of her past she was talking about her parents influence? And also she sings about praying to a ghost no one can ever see. This would be a god no doubt.
Also she sings about how the people are looking to scientists for cures now. It seems that these days people are holding on less to thier religion and beliefs and they are holding on more to facts and figures.
She has been talking a lot about lately she has been trying to find "something" and maybe she wrote this song when she was looking and it's basically her stating her confusion.
Does this make any sense? lol
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lyrics:
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God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely the wicked in you
We pray to a ghost that we never met
Time turns for a cure, from the scientists for
Madness, madness of the heart
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
When mine's all the chaos that started everything
And maybe it's faith, when the sadness takes hold
Still stars through a window, will they ever know this
Madness, madness of the heart
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
There's a madness, a madness of the heart
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
Stare a sleepy smile into a sunbeam
Is this nothing more than a daydream?
Color stained glass cathedral
Confess a past that will let you go
God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely coming through
And pray to a ghost that I've never met
Don't kill for someway out of this mess
It's the heart
It's the heart
And there's madness, a madness in the stars
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
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Thanks for the lyrics. ;D
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lyrics:
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God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely the wicked in you
We pray to a ghost that we never met
Time turns for a cure, from the scientists for
Madness, madness of the heart
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
When mine's all the chaos that started everything
And maybe it's faith, when the sadness takes hold
Still stars through a window, will they ever know this
Madness, madness of the heart
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
There's a madness, a madness of the heart
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
Stare a sleepy smile into a sunbeam
Is this nothing more than a daydream?
Color stained glass cathedral
Confess a past that will let you go
God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely coming through
And pray to a ghost that I've never met
Don't kill for someway out of this mess
It's the heart
It's the heart
And there's madness, a madness in the stars
But you knew it, you knew it from the start
coming in from last night, i thought i heard "lines of the kiosk" (very british, v!)
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I think in the last verse she sings. Time turns for someway out of this mess. its kinda the same as the first verse maybe? :)
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This song has officially reignited my passion/(obsession,lol) for Vanessa's music. :)
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Completely agree. I have a good feeling about this one guys... :)
So does anyone have an overall interpretation of this song's meaning? I'm loving the lyrics, just wish I knew more about what they mean
I may be completely off on this, but I get some sort of religion feel to this. I'll explain why:
God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely the wicked in you
Typically, people go to church on Sunday's. It's a Holy day. The second line to me makes me think of some people who go to Church on Sundays and act like a good person that day, but for the rest of the week, they do all these bad things, whatever they maybe.
And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
When mine's all the chaos that started everything
And maybe it's faith, when the sadness takes hold
When I think of the spring, I think of lent. I don't know how that would have to do with tall tales though. The second part I'm not sure what it means, but I think the word faith makes me believe it's another religion thing. Also because she says cathedral later on.
I could be totally off though. This song is way too beautifully complex.
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Completely agree. I have a good feeling about this one guys... :)
So does anyone have an overall interpretation of this song's meaning? I'm loving the lyrics, just wish I knew more about what they mean
I may be completely off on this, but I get some sort of religion feel to this. I'll explain why:
God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely the wicked in you
Typically, people go to church on Sunday's. It's a Holy day. The second line to me makes me think of some people who go to Church on Sundays and act like a good person that day, but for the rest of the week, they do all these bad things, whatever they maybe.
And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
When mine's all the chaos that started everything
And maybe it's faith, when the sadness takes hold
When I think of the spring, I think of lent. I don't know how that would have to do with tall tales though. The second part I'm not sure what it means, but I think the word faith makes me believe it's another religion thing. Also because she says cathedral later on.
I could be totally off though. This song is way too beautifully complex.
totally a song about faith and questions that arise with them. I think Tall tales have EVERYTHING to do with religion (any religion). I love the line about the scientists madness. Makes me think back to history when people were thought of as heretics because they thought the earth was round! I have more to add but I'm at work and cannot indulge. I also need to think about it more!
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This song has officially reignited my passion/(obsession,lol) for Vanessa's music. :)
I know. Out of all of the "new" (I know it's not technically new, but off the new album) songs, this one is possibly my favourite.
I love all the songs, but this is the one that I can't get out of my head.
I can understand why she originally called the album "Tall Tales For Spring" - this song is just magnificent.
Sarah
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I love the drums. It makes it more powerful.
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Completely agree. I have a good feeling about this one guys... :)
So does anyone have an overall interpretation of this song's meaning? I'm loving the lyrics, just wish I knew more about what they mean
I may be completely off on this, but I get some sort of religion feel to this. I'll explain why:
God rest his head Sunday afternoon
And the wicked in me is surely the wicked in you
Typically, people go to church on Sunday's. It's a Holy day. The second line to me makes me think of some people who go to Church on Sundays and act like a good person that day, but for the rest of the week, they do all these bad things, whatever they maybe.
In the bible, God created the world in 6 days and on the 7th day he rested. I assume that's what she means by that lyric in a literal sense, but you never know if there's a double meaning! I think the next line would be about how everyone is part of the human condition so our feelings are all sort of the same as each other's in a broad sense-- the reason why we can "relate" to other people, etc.
Great song. Musically, and maybe lyrically my favorite so far!
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I know. Out of all of the "new" (I know it's not technically new, but off the new album) songs, this one is possibly my favourite.
I love all the songs, but this is the one that I can't get out of my head.
I can understand why she originally called the album "Tall Tales For Spring" - this song is just magnificent.
Sarah
The subject matter that inspired this song poses as many questions as it answers. I think that's what V wanted to endear to this composition - an
attempt to understand things without a unified theory :-* Tall Tales for Spring is a reminds us how much there is that resists a single explanation!
Peace
Aaron
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And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
When mine's all the chaos that started everything
And maybe it's faith, when the sadness takes hold (quote)
I'm thinking it's:
Our minds hold the chaos that started everything
which makes more sense to me because we are part of the universe and are created from the same matter that the universe was created from, so it stands to reason that somewhere in us, we know the true answers to all the questions about creation/the universe. that from chaos came order and inside of us is also the chaos from which the universe was created. Just a theory! Also, I hear fate rather than faith...but I know my ears aren't the best, so I'm not the authority on anything hehe :)
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's "our minds hold the chaos..." :)
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And Hawking will tell us no tall tales this spring
When mine's all the chaos that started everything
And maybe it's faith, when the sadness takes hold (quote)
I'm thinking it's:
Our minds hold the chaos that started everything
which makes more sense to me because we are part of the universe and are created from the same matter that the universe was created from, so it stands to reason that somewhere in us, we know the true answers to all the questions about creation/the universe. that from chaos came order and inside of us is also the chaos from which the universe was created. Just a theory! Also, I hear fate rather than faith...but I know my ears aren't the best, so I'm not the authority on anything hehe :)
Ha. I was just about to mention this... But yeah... Everything is created from chaos. That theory is just beautiful.
What I do love about this song though is that she doesn't seem to be officially condemning religion or worship or anything of that sort.
I have this belief that religion is sometimes the purest form of LOVE. Where we believe in something that we have never seen and are sometimes willing to die for it (refer religious extremists) and that is an example of pure LOVE. Where you are willing to believe that person without questioning or doubting him/her.
She calls it "Madness of the HEART" aka a LOVE so pure, even though we secretly know it doesn't make any sense.
This song is just poetry.
LOVE it.
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It just dawned on me (hadn't really thought about it before) that the lyric, "stars through a window, will they ever know this madness" is probably talking about stars/planets within other galaxies and wondering whether they have life, madness of the heart, etc, too. Makes me like the song even more if that's true, it is one of those things I wonder about when I look at the stars too :)
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I'm really drawn to the word "cathedral" in the bridge. Makes me think of religion, and how science has conflicted with religion for centuries. This is why Vanessa is desperately needed in this music industry: she makes you think! : )
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^LOL i second that. But for me "cathedral" reminds me of my high school because it was cathedral catholic hs.
oh and idk the more i listen to it i get kinda scared lol
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBUdhjg11Xo
i wanted to see if there was anything on youtube of vanessa singing with deer tick and found this. I don't remember anyone mentioning it before, just another video of the song with john from deer tick and a little more info on the song.