aftermath: Operation: Iraqi Freedom, how do you feel?

[Grakthis]

As for N. Korea...  the reason we didi not focus so heavily on North Korea is clearly obvious...  The reast of the world supports action against North Korea.  If we don't focus on them, Japan and a bunch of others sure as hell will step in... that was certainly not the case with iraq.

yeah... call it a hunch, but i dont think Japan is gonna put up with Nukes in the hands of a nut job RIGHT next door.
---Andrew

[LimeTwister]

And I still watch frequent reports on FOX News about what's going on in the Middle East so if you're not seeing anythign being reported maybe you should just change the channel...

Okay, so my papa is watching FOX news (i like fox, but O'reily gets on my nerves...ok back on subject) and it appears they may have found nuclear weapons in someone's backyard...but they are still doing tests.

[rroo]

Simply put, this was not meant to be pretty.. if you are bashing it because it wasn't clean enough for you then I'm sorry maybe you need to shield yourself from a lot of the real world.  This is what a war is like... people die... not always the intended ones... plans change... missions succeed... missions fail...  I repect everyone involved except for those who sit back and spout negativity while never actively educationg themselves on what they are talking about (from the homemaker to the superstar).

I wasn't concerned on how "clean" it was.  It's not our job to take out leaders of countries.  He said they were a threat, and so far they weren't a threat.  

Yeah, that's what's been bothering me also. We shouldn't forget that this was started because Iraq would have WOMD. Inspectors were sent into Iraq to investigate. When they wanted to stay a bit longer to investigate more sites, they weren't allowed to. The US attacked, not because they were convinced there were WOMD, but just because they couldn't afford to wait any longer.

I think it's just a lame excuse to justify this war by saying: 'Look we've freed the Iraqi people!' That wasn't the reason this war was started. It can only be justified if there really are/were WOMD in iraq. If there turn out to be none, the US owes a lot of people an apology, starting with Mr. Blix.

[rroo]

I did do some research, but you obviously didn't as you only say everyone is wrong without giving any reason for it. It's a true fact that the CNN didn't show certain news because your government forced them to. The BBC showed it all.

I do all kinds of research on every topic I talk about.  Because if I dont know anything about a subject, I dont comment on it.  So when I do comment, it's because I have an informed opinion.

I'm not posting evidence or arguments about WHY you are wrong because I dont want this to turn into a debate.  Because this debate has been done 100 times already and i'm trying to spare people the agony of another 2,000 word post.

But at the same time it is against my nature to let someone post BS unopposed.... so at the least I want to tell people that you ARE wrong and let them to do some research on their own to figure out WHY.

Yes, it IS a fact that CNN didn't show everything.  I never disputed this.  It's also a fact that BBC didn't show everything because CNN showed pieces BBC didn't.  At the same time, Al-Jazeera showed things NEITHER CNN or BBC showed, but Al-Jazeera was STILL heavily censored.

The truth is in the pieces gathered from MANY sources.

When you research a topic for college/highschool/career do you just look
at one source?  Of course not.

I don't claim I know everything. You act as if you do, but all you do trying to make people look foolish. Take some discussion classes. When you pass those I'd love to talk to you about some other topics, like the Kyote agreement and the US election system.

When I pass discussion classes?  LOL.  Good stuff.   Good times, noodle salad.  I'm not even gonna take THAT bait.

Is throwing out the KyotO (not Kyote) agreement supposed to impress me? Like i'm not familar with it and you're gonna stump me with your superior political knowledge?  Try spelling it right if you are going for THAT angle.

I kinda did a science emphasis in environmental stuidies in college including environmental geology and economics so i'm more than familiar with global warming and the Kyoto Agreement.

If you wanna stump me, pick a different topic.  I can throw out a few topics I'm ignorant about if you need the help....
---Andrew

The goal of a discussion is trying to convince people that your opinion on a certain subject is the right one. If you don't intend to contribute anything to the discussion you just should not post.

Furthermore I think it's kinda childish to come up with the spelling errors. English isn't my first language (your post aren't entirely error-free either, (what are stuidies?)). If you wanna continue this in dutch be my guest.

[PintOGuinness]

Oh Rogier.. Hans Blix is a laughing stock.  He, on many occasions, made about as much sense as the Iraqi Information minister.  

He continually wrote conflicting reports on Iraq's WMDs prior to the war... he catered to whoever seemed to be winning the day's argument.  The man has no spine whatsoever.  

Now he is quoted as saying, "The longer the United States and Britain occupy Iraq without finding weapons of mass destruction, the more conceivable it is that Baghdad destroyed them after the first Gulf War in 1991. It is sort of fascinating that you can have 100 percent certainty about weapons of mass destruction and zero certainty of about where they are."  But let me remind you, since 1991 it was one man's responsibility to verify that those weapons were destroyed...  Hans Blix.  Yet another thing at which he was a miserable failure.

Hans Blix is not a new player in this game.. he's been around since 1991.. and he failed to accomplish anything 12 years ago as well.