Author Topic: BUSH IN BRITAIN (Read 6937 times)

Scotty · « **on:** November 19, 2003, 12:22:10 pm »

what a big farce!!!!

16,000 police force
500 secret service officers
Heavily armed car

and a reporter managed to sneak in through palace security and it could have been a "terrorist".

Can't wait to watch Graham Norton to hear BUSH get slagged rotten!

rosieposy87 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 19, 2003, 12:27:42 pm »

I was gonna post a thread on this too! Why should we spend 5 MILLION on someone the majority of people here hate? Fair enough have him here with Blair, but not a STATE visit- thats an insult.

Scotty · « **Reply #2 on:** November 19, 2003, 12:34:27 pm »

Quote from: "rosieposy87"

I was gonna post a thread on this too! Why should we spend 5 MILLION on someone the majority of people here hate? Fair enough have him here with Blair, but not a STATE visit- thats an insult.

exactly £5 million of tax payers money for a cup of tea and a chit chat...

PintOGuinness · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2003, 05:55:23 am »

Amazing that you people blame Bush for this... HE didin't do a damn thing... you lost £5 million of tax payers money because of PROTESTERS. Bush's visit could have been completely uneventful. You two have a seriously skewed view of this entire thing...

Holly · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2003, 07:15:39 am »

world leaders meet with eachother... thats how it goes...
i agree with Jason.. its not Bush's fault, its the fault of the people who dont want him there.

Scotty · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2003, 09:55:32 am »

Quote from: "PintOGuinness"

Amazing that you people blame Bush for this... HE didin't do a damn thing... you lost £5 million of tax payers money because of PROTESTERS. Bush's visit could have been completely uneventful. You two have a seriously skewed view of this entire thing...

$11 million (£ 5 million)
The cost of hiring extra police officers to provide security for Bush’s visit was paid for using tax payers money nothing to do with the protesters.

kev222 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2003, 12:21:12 pm »

£5 million isn't all that much considering that burning tax payer's hard earned money is what Britain does best. The NHS could probably squander that in a couple of minutes. It's not Bush's fault, it's just the way we do things here (expensively and ineffectively, lol).

-Kev

rosieposy87 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2003, 08:17:00 am »

Quote from: "Holly"

world leaders meet with eachother... thats how it goes...
i agree with Jason.. its not Bush's fault, its the fault of the people who dont want him there.

Holly, ever stop to think why we didn't want him here? I thought that was obvious.

And Jason, i think you'll find that it is your view that is skewed. The figures were misrepresented in the American media as you stated on your LJ- even the police here admitted it was 100,000 that protested, not 50,000. You have NO idea whatsoever what it is like to live in a country with a royal family- which in turn means you will have NO idea whatsoever what an insult it is to our nation to have a figure such as the Queen invite one of the most hated men in the world to our country.

Holly · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2003, 09:16:10 am »

Quote from: "rosieposy87"

Quote from: "Holly"
world leaders meet with eachother... thats how it goes...
i agree with Jason.. its not Bush's fault, its the fault of the people who dont want him there.

Holly, ever stop to think why we didn't want him here? I thought that was obvious.

Rosie, ever stop to think that maybe the only way to make things better between our countries is to talk and work things out, isnt that obvious? i dont know about you, but i do want a more peaceful world. i know thats not going to happen... but little things like the leaders of 2 countries talking is a step. thats the way things are done... people meet and talk about issues that affect relationships and what is going on around them! if no one talked... that would suck! it would be a very bitter world and dont you think that maybe the Queen knows what she's doing?
and if there were no protesters Bush wouldnt need security at all! but is because of people like that that it happens... blame them!

rosieposy87 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2003, 09:25:20 am »

Quote from: "Holly"

Rosie, ever stop to think that maybe the only way to make things better between our countries is to talk and work things out, isnt that obvious? i dont know about you, but i do want a more peaceful world.

What is evident to me is that all Bush has done by coming here is making things worse. You place steel tarrifs on our country when we just sent our forces in Iraq, and you want us to talk about it? Oh and, correct me if i'm wrong, but Bush didn't exactly want to 'talk about it' when it came to the war did he? The reason the Second Resolution was pushed was because of Blair. Bush would've gone in a long time before.

Quote from: "Holly"

dont you think that maybe the Queen knows what she's doing?

No. I do not like the Queen- i saw her just 2 days ago when she came to my town. She has no idea what she is doing in my opinion- she is a frail, lost, ageing woman. I respect what the Queen stands for, not the person.

Quote from: "Holly"

and if there were no protesters Bush wouldnt need security at all! but is because of people like that that it happens... blame them!

Catergorically NOT true. Correct me if i'm wrong again, but Bush is fighting a war on Terrorism. Not protesters.

Layla · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2003, 10:57:01 am »

Quote from: "PintOGuinness"

Amazing that you people blame Bush for this... HE didin't do a damn thing... you lost £5 million of tax payers money because of PROTESTERS. Bush's visit could have been completely uneventful. You two have a seriously skewed view of this entire thing...

but its fun to hate Bush :lol:

PintOGuinness · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2003, 01:41:09 pm »

Woah.. with ALL that is going on in the world.. if you guiys think there need to be talk between the US and Britain to "Improve Things" maybe you should look around for some real enemies. Umm in case you havent notised there are Muslim Extremists that hate us both and would like to see us all dead... adn no it's NOT all the US's fault as much as the Brits would like to pass off the blame. You were doing fine with pissing off the Muslims too long before the whole Iraq situation came up...

Quote from: "rosieposy87"

You place steel tarrifs on our country when we just sent our forces in Iraq, and you want us to talk about it? Oh and, correct me if i'm wrong, but Bush didn't exactly want to 'talk about it' when it came to the war did he? The reason the Second Resolution was pushed was because of Blair. Bush would've gone in a long time before.

I will say Bush's steel tariffs were an insane rediculous idea that I have no idea where he ever got the idea he was doing good there. I have no idea how his advisors let those get snuck in and I have no idea how they are being allowed to stay. He will be solely responsible for the destruction of the World economy if someone doesn't take care of them soon. THIS is an issue where he severly fucked up.

Quote from: "rosieposy87"

Catergorically NOT true. Correct me if i'm wrong again, but Bush is fighting a war on Terrorism. Not protesters.

I could not understand this statement no matter how hard I tried. I don't know how much clearer it can be. Extra security was hired because there were going to be 100's of thousands of protesters. So the people to blame for the extra money being spent are the protesters. The President of the United States of America has quite Enough Security thank you very much. They are called the Secret Service and are fully capapble of protecting one man. If the whiney protesters would have quit their yapping and put down their banners with oh so catchy slogans on them.. you're £5 million could have been saved. Why is it that Bush had to stay home? why is it that none of you ask that the whiners stay home?

And the amusing thing is... none of us, would ever insult your Prime Minister by implying he should stay home and not visit the United States. It's really is laughable that it is the "anti-war" crowd that get hostile, hateful and just plain rude and insulting so quickly...

rosieposy87 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2003, 01:53:26 pm »

Quote from: "PintOGuinness"

If the whiney protesters would have quit their yapping and put down their banners with oh so catchy slogans on them.. you're £5 million could have been saved. Why is it that Bush had to stay home? why is it that none of you ask that the whiners stay home?

Did you just ask protestors to stay home? Oh Jason, you just went against your little country's principle of 'freedom of speech'.

Quote from: "PintOGuiness"

And the amusing thing is... none of us, would ever insult your Prime Minister by implying he should stay home and not visit the United States. It's really is laughable that it is the "anti-war" crowd that get hostile, hateful and just plain rude and insulting so quickly...

Would anyone protest against Blair if he went to America? I think not.

Will · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2003, 02:08:44 pm »

Quote from: "rosieposy87"

Did you just ask protestors to stay home? Oh Jason, you just went against your little country's principle of 'freedom of speech'.

How is this true? This is freedom of assembly we are talking about right here, not speech. And anyway, the goverment did not prohibit it.

And there is a little something called responsibility here. There are lots of things that it is legal to say and do that I would discourage because they are irresponsible. But by no means do I think that they should be illegal. The people have the right to do these things. I have the right to say that their actions were irresponsible and they shouldn't have done it. But I'm all for their right to make idiots out of themselves.

This is not a civil rights issue. Don't try to make it one. Just because we think they didn't exercise responsibility in exercising their rights doesn't mean we don't think they have the right to do what they did.

neos · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2003, 02:15:20 pm »

Quote from: "PintOGuinness"

And the amusing thing is... none of us, would ever insult your Prime Minister by implying he should stay home and not visit the United States.

It was a state visit. The Prime Minister isn't head of state in the UK. The Queen is. Obviously, if the Queen of England visited the US it would have no political connotations, so this is a whole different issue.

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Author Topic: BUSH IN BRITAIN (Read 6937 times)