German

[Holly]

ARGH stop claiming your 'heritage' -no one cares!

havent we been over this before Rosie? Most Americans do care because our country is so new, the roots of our heritage aren't that deep. For example, my grandparents also speak the languages of their heritages, because their parents had just come from there when they were born. A lot of  my family is still in Europe and stuff... So duh, of course I'm going to care. In school, I have done a few projects on heritage. So we even learn about them in school! It's an American thing, and it makes sense why we care. I just dont see why you can't figure that out, haha.

see... here's something i made for a project i did in highschool.

[Dancernl]

i agree with Rosie.  The problem isn't about being proud of your roots and appreciating where your family came from and the traditions of those places.  The problem is that Americans take it too far.  All that "great American Melting Pot" Schoolhouse rock stuff is crap.  The original colonists in America were explorers and separatists, and need I say more about the exploitation of the Native Americans?  But this isn't a debate about who was here first and why, or who is better.  The thing is that when I am asked by another person what I am, I say "American."  Not Italian or German or Swedish or English.  I'm an American, that's what it says on my passport, birth certificate, etc.  America needs to get real and get their own identity.  I'm not Italian.  The only thing I know of Italy is what my mom cooks because that's how her grandparents taught her how to cook, she's never been there and my sister or I have never been there.  The same is true for most other Americans who identify themselves with another ethnicity or nationality.  So it doesn't matter to me "what" everyone else is and how far back you can trace your bloodline.

[Logikal X]

ARGH stop claiming your 'heritage' -no one cares!

lol
The initial question was

do you have some German in you?

And of course, now people are talking about something other than that. Isn't that what happens in almost all threads? Staying on topic seems to be very hard. LOL!

its what always happens.  And my mom is from Panama, while her mom moved here from Spain, Her dad moved here from germany, It was my great grandparents on the italian side, and my grandparents on the scottish side

All of them practice traditions that from their heritage, its something to be proud of that you always remember where you came from.  Rosie, people do care, because ive been asked multiple times in my life.  Just because i live in America doesnt mean im some pos with no family heritage.


Si, this always happens and you know it. but you love to point it out, DONT YOU...hehe  :razz:  

[keith]

ARGH stop claiming your 'heritage' -no one cares!

I agree with Rosie, I'm sick of all this, "I'm part German, and part Polish, and part Californian, blah blah"

You are WHITE!

[rosieposy87]

I just dont see why you can't figure that out, haha.

EVERYONE in the world had different 'roots' or a mixed heritage if you go back far enough. In my opinion its just a chance to show off and claim something that you actually have no direct link to. My family was from Ireland- I don't claim that i'm Irish, I'm proud of the country i live and was born in. You claim you're proud of being American and then you go on and on about a country you've been to for a few weeks of your life.

So I can 'figure it out' Holly but that doesn't stop me from thinking its a stupid thing to do.

[neos]

Nikki and Rosie, I couldn't agree more. It's quite annoying actually, every time an American person asks another American what nationality they are... it makes no sense. You are American. Full stop. Your grandparents, great-grandparents, etc can be whatever but as for you? you are American. You can say there are still traditions in your family running from those nationalities your grandparents (not you!) are/were, but you are not Swedish/German/South African/WHATEVER.

Funny, it makes one think America is unsure of its own identity when, on one side, there's American flags in every corner and crap like "if you are not supportive of the government you are not patriotic" happens, and on the other hand everyone has to go on showing off about how many different places they can find their "roots" in. Stupid.

[Logikal X]

Just because you grew up in one country, it doesnt make your families' history obsolete.   I think its pretty naive to say people shouldnt say where their roots lie. i know many famlies who stick very strongly to the traditions of their heritage, regardless of where they "live"



Id also like to state that im not supportive of my government, im not moving because im happy here, and to be honest i really dont care if you think you are great because you are from your homeland.  Thats stupid, Its the people who raised you, and the people who raised them, and so on, that makes you who you are.

[Logikal X]

i agree with Rosie.  The problem isn't about being proud of your roots and appreciating where your family came from and the traditions of those places.  The problem is that Americans take it too far.  All that "great American Melting Pot" Schoolhouse rock stuff is crap.  The original colonists in America were explorers and separatists, and need I say more about the exploitation of the Native Americans?  But this isn't a debate about who was here first and why, or who is better.  The thing is that when I am asked by another person what I am, I say "American."  Not Italian or German or Swedish or English.  I'm an American, that's what it says on my passport, birth certificate, etc.  America needs to get real and get their own identity.  I'm not Italian.  The only thing I know of Italy is what my mom cooks because that's how her grandparents taught her how to cook, she's never been there and my sister or I have never been there.  The same is true for most other Americans who identify themselves with another ethnicity or nationality.  So it doesn't matter to me "what" everyone else is and how far back you can trace your bloodline.

I think you're correct about people who take it too far, but knowing your family history and telling people if they ask isnt a very big exploit.  This is what people are upset over.

[rosieposy87]

Just because you grew up in one country, it doesnt make your families' history obsolete.   I think its pretty naive to say people shouldnt say where their roots lie. i know many famlies who stick very strongly to the traditions of their heritage, regardless of where they "live"

We're not saying you should 'make your families' history obsolete'- that is NOT the point I, or Nerea, is making. I am saying, fair enough carry on traditions your grandparents taught you etc, but don't claim you're Italian every hour of the day. You say its naieve to not say where you roots are, I say its immature to insist on telling every man, woman and child where your great grandparents came from 100 years ago.

To be honest i really dont care if you think you are great because you are from your homeland.

You are mistaken. Again, that is NOT the point Nerea is making. Read it again Pete.

[Si]

I vote there should be a new Forum added. The Useless Discussions Forum or whatever
It's getting a bit anoying to see every goddamn thread being transformed in a dissing-others/discussion thread. Everyone has to be right, everyone has to make their point, everyone has to be better than anyone else.
Just vote in the fucking poll, post why you chose that option, and let everyone have their own opinion, no matter how stupid it may seem to you.

[rosieposy87]

I vote there should be a new Forum added. The Useless Discussions Forum or whatever
It's getting a bit anoying to see every goddamn thread being transformed in a dissing-others/discussion thread. Everyone has to be right, everyone has to make their point, everyone has to be better than anyone else.
Just vote in the fucking poll, post why you chose that option, and let everyone have their own opinion, no matter how stupid it may seem to you.

Si, this board was made for discussions- thats its purpose. A lot of people here don't want to talk about nonsense and be silly all of the time- some people enjoy debates, and if they want to- they should be given the right to do so. Everyone will ALWAYS disagree but discussion is a way to see other people's sides and views- this board would be no fun without them.

[Si]

I see

[Logikal X]

I wasnt only speaking in reply to Nerea.


 I dont see what the big deal is about admitting if you have german descent in you, or mentioning your other descents Especially when its the subject of the thread. I have had people ask me.  Im relatively sure anyone you know well probably knows you have Irish descent, no?  I dont think anyone is bragging in here about something they arent.  Your heritage doesnt make you better than anyone else, and i havent seen anyone in here claim theirs does.  However some people are interested in their own heritage.  Is it wrong to be interested in the countries your parents/grandparents came from?  Im confused as to what is so wrong in this thread that we must all be rudely told what we are doing is wrong.

[Logikal X]

I vote there should be a new Forum added. The Useless Discussions Forum or whatever
It's getting a bit anoying to see every goddamn thread being transformed in a dissing-others/discussion thread. Everyone has to be right, everyone has to make their point, everyone has to be better than anyone else.
Just vote in the fucking poll, post why you chose that option, and let everyone have their own opinion, no matter how stupid it may seem to you.

i know you are serious, i apologize, but this cracked me up "Just vote in the fucking poll"  :lol:

[rosieposy87]

I wasnt only speaking in reply to Nerea.


 I dont see what the big deal is about admitting if you have german descent in you, or mentioning your other descents Especially when its the subject of the thread. I have had people ask me.  Im relatively sure anyone you know well probably knows you have Irish descent, no?  I dont think anyone is bragging in here about something they arent.  Your heritage doesnt make you better than anyone else, and i havent seen anyone in here claim theirs does.  However some people are interested in their own heritage.  Is it wrong to be interested in the countries your parents/grandparents came from?  Im confused as to what is so wrong in this thread that we must all be rudely told what we are doing is wrong.

 I think its pretty obvious that i'm Irish because of my name, but i never tell people- my friends just assume it- i would call myself 100% English as would all my friends. My problem is that people seem to want to claim this 'heritage' at every possible opportunity- and often as if it IS alluding to being better than someone else because they have more cultural mix, or have grandparents of a non american nationality- when actually it is relatively unimportant in the scale of things. I also completely agree with what nerea said about the contradiction i see in american society- i wish people would just be straight forwardly proud of being american.