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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2005, 06:35:09 am »
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2005, 07:41:30 am »
I'm so glad that Vanessa finally addressed these issues herself - it shows that she can take charge and still be totally open and honest with her fans.

I respect that a lot. It's disapppointing that she's not releasing a second single. I was a bit surprised by that, because I was sure that "Who's To Say" was close to making it's way out as the next one, but it's obviously just not in the cards this time. I feel so bad for Vanessa because of her poor promotion from A&M. It just goes to show you how narrow-minded people in the music industry are these days. Vanessa is a rarity - she actually sings without a backup chorus and writes her own music. She plays the piano on her own and doesn't need to objectify her body in order to sell records. I respect Vanessa so much, for those reasons in particular, and it just proves that a record label like A&M does not deserve to have an artist as talented as Vanessa on their label.

Even in spite of all of this, Vanessa is still pushing to put out a third album. Good for her! I can't wait until it's released and I'm sure it will be just as good as Harmonium. This is proof that Vanessa is truly dedicated to her music and her amazing fanbase.

And that's all I wanted to say about that  :)

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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2005, 07:54:01 am »
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I hope things work out for her, what with the new people, and yada yada.


I hope so, too.

I hate to be the one to speculate, and maybe I was just reading way too much into the post and how she worded stuff, but it sounds like she might be hopping labels real soon. *shrug*

no, I think you nailed it right on the head B.  We all knew it was coming.  the irony is that she is probably being dropped because Harmonium was a "flop" (not saying flop = teh suxerz, but to record execs it was, let's be honest) yet it "flopped" because the company did ZERO promotion to begin with.  However if one of those mighty businessmen had left their tenth floor corner office with a view and actually came to a show this tour, they would have realized Harmonium could have been even more successful than BnN.  Right now I feel like writing a nastygram to Ron Fair, but what good would that do.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2005, 08:06:29 am »
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Right now I feel like writing a nastygram to Ron Fair, but what good would that do.

Yeah...he probably doesn't care...
And I'm not even sure he's the one to blame. Is he the CEO of A&M?
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2005, 09:49:24 am »
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no, I think you nailed it right on the head B.  We all knew it was coming.  the irony is that she is probably being dropped because Harmonium was a "flop" (not saying flop = teh suxerz, but to record execs it was, let's be honest) yet it "flopped" because the company did ZERO promotion to begin with.


She probably is being dropped because Harmonium didn't do well, but it seems like she's already covered herself and found another label which will cater more to her music style, which is a very positive thing if that is true. And that is why it makes sense for her to make a new album so quickly, because the new label probably can't legally promote songs from the "old" album since I'm sure in some legal mumbo-jumbo way Interscope holds some rights to the songs or something  :?.

Plus she wouldn't flame the label unless she really was leaving, so yah  :).
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2005, 10:03:02 am »
hey, new label = new website... finally we may get a decent vc.com site! :-P
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2005, 10:12:20 am »
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hey, new label = new website... finally we may get a decent vc.com site! :-P


 :D  great point! :lol:
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2005, 10:35:45 am »
I wonder who owns the rights to ATM? Because while that song should technically keep her comfortable for the rest of her life, if she leaves A&M in a bitter fight- then things ain't gonna be easy. I think everyone knew this was coming- and i am just hoping her 'new people' aren't some tiny indie label. I think everyone needs to calm down a bit about the 3rd album- think how long Harmonium took. I am not getting my hopes up.
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2005, 11:02:47 am »
wow. she seems really upset
poor V

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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2005, 11:24:50 am »
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I wonder who owns the rights to ATM?

Well, since she wrote it, she owns the credits for that, at least.

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hey, new label = new website... finally we may get a decent vc.com site! :P

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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2005, 11:30:01 am »
very few artists own their own music... i highly doubt V owns ATM and most likely only owns the copyright on the lyrics etc.  When you're signed to a label they basically own *everything*... the weird thing is VC hasn't trademarked her name or any of the other things that mgmt usually handles... like the VC font.  Even if she leaves the label or they drop her, they will still have to pay her whatever % of what they get for ATM but i don't know how honorable a label is about doing that :)
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2005, 11:33:40 am »
lol, if V actually owned the rights to ATM, I highly doubt it would have popped up in White Chicks
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2005, 11:48:44 am »
I wish I could find my copy of BNN (it got ripped to my iPod and I haven't touched the CD since). It would tell you who owns the copyright to ATM.
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2005, 11:57:54 am »
does anyone know what the new record label is?

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2005, 11:57:56 am »
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hey, new label = new website... finally we may get a decent vc.com site! :-P

If she were to sign to any of the Sony owned labels, there'll be a new board even worse than Fullerene!
It'll be interesting to see where she actually does go.