METAL!

[MeganJane]

------------------------------------------------------------------------That's not what all Metal is like though, I mean, I agree, I don't care for those types of bands like Slipnot... but that's sort of stereotyping all metal, most actually isn't like that from what I know.

Thankyou Gina. You're right. It's not all like that. That's like saying that all pop music is like Britney. I like metal, and I don't really like Slipknot. I don't have anything against them, I just don't like them enough to buy a Cd or download their music.

Dear God, we know how goth you are!

I think you are misunderstanding the image... it's not goth.

[MeganJane]

List of Heavy Metal Genres from Wikipedia.org

A number of overlapping heavy metal genres have developed since the emergence of heavy metal in the late 1960s. Even though metal genres at times are difficult to segregate, they usually show different characteristics in overall structures, instrumental and vocal styles, and tempo.

Sometimes a trait of a genre is common in several more genres however, and metal genres are normally grouped by their combination of these traits.


   1 Heavy metal subgenres
   1.1 Black metal
   1.2 Death metal
   1.3 Doom metal
   1.4 Folk metal
   1.5 Glam metal
   1.6 Gothic metal
   1.7 Grindcore
   1.8 Industrial metal
   1.9 Instrumental Metal/Post-Hardcore
   1.10 Metalcore
   1.11 Neo-classical metal
   1.12 Nu metal
   1.13 Power metal
   1.14 Progressive metal
   1.15 Symphonic metal
   1.16 Thrash metal
   1.17 Speed metal


   2 Cross-genre references
   2.1 Alternative metal
   2.2 Avant garde metal
   2.3 Celtic metal
   2.4 Christian metal
   2.5 Classic metal
   2.6 Dark metal
   2.7 Epic metal
   2.8 Extreme metal
   2.9 NWOBHM
   2.10 NWOAHM
   2.11 Rapcore
   2.12 Stoner metal
   2.13 Troll metal
   2.14 Viking metal

Guess what? They don't all sound like Slipknot. They don't all wear masks.
:rosie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_genres

[Gina]

EXACTLY!  I'm glad someone gets it.  So many people are so ignorant to the fact that Metal comes in many different forms/sounds/etc.  And perhaps, you really do dislike all metal, and that's fine, but it seems like most are very uneducated and misled and do think Metal is all about bands like Slipknot.  It's absolutely not, they're just one genre.

[MeganJane]

Yay! Someone to agree with me!
Gina, you rock my black, gothic socks!  :thumbsup:

[Ryou-Neko]

Hun, I can't say anything about not being goth cause I usually dress in black. I'm not stereotyping any genre. I consider myself extremely aware of different cultures and types of music and I wasn't talking about all metal. I was talking about Slipknot, and only Slipknot. They project a generally bad image of themselves and I really don't care for it whatsoever. As far as I can see, Slipknot is trying to put a glaring neon light over the fact that they're a metal band, and that's why I have a problem with Slipknot. Why can't they just dress normally and act normally? (Keep in mind that I'm not criticizing people in general who dress differently and abnormally, because once again, I'm one of those people who dresses like that.) Nearly every metal band dresses the same and it just pisses me off that no person in metal (as far as I've found) can have enough self-confidence to dress in reds and blues and greens and still play metal music. Regardless, I don't find much metal original; about the only artist that I listen to that someone could consider metal would be Marilyn Manson. I like people who speak their minds, not what's in everybody else's minds.

I'm gonna pay the world for everything I just said.

[MeganJane]

RN, that's fair enough. I wasn't trying to offend you or anything. I just wanted to make it clear that there are many subgenres that fall under the umbrella of "Metal".

As for dressing in black, P.O.D is generally put under the "nu metal" label, and they wear whatever colours they want, not just black. Same for Metallica- they have been known to wear other colours. I'm sure there are other examples too.

As for all metal sounding the same, I guess that's subjective, and it may sound the same to you, but there really are big differences between subgenres, and there should be (but aren't always, unfortunately) between the bands that make up those subgenres. That's the same for any major genre though.

[Gina]

I respect your opinions RN.  Slipknot really isn't my taste, at ALL!  Quite frankly they scare me, but to each their own.  I'm more into new types of Metal, that may not be "metal" to a lot of people who see metal only as it was quite a few years ago.  That metal still exists but now there's so many more subgenres as megan said... I do disagree with you though on the fact that all metal bands dress the same, maybe the metal that you're speaking of when you think of Slipknot or bands like that does dress "goth" but I know plennnty of metal bands who wear color.

[MeganJane]

Also, wearing black doesn't make one "goth"

[Ryou-Neko]

I'm very aware of the black clothes doesn't = goth thing, 'cause like I said before I usually dress in black and I don't consider myself gothic at all. I'm not limiting this to only Metal music; some of the most talented people on Earth are in that genre. Many metal bands wear only black, and there just so happens that there are a lot less who wear colors.

No offense taken, Megan (what should I call you, btw?). A lot of metal sounds the same, and for that matter a lot of pop and rock and jazz and contemporary sounds the same too. I'm one of the people who listens to the more unique parts of those genres, and metal just isn't one that generally interests me; once again I do listen to some metal. Not much, but some. I don't refuse to listen to anything.

I'm sure this has been enlightening for all of us. It's good to know that someone on the Internet can put together a meaningful paragraph. =)

[MeganJane]

A lot of it does sound the same. That is the stuff I don't listen to, because I like music with original elements. For example, I love Metallica, but if another band sounded like them, I probably wouldn't like them a lot because there is already one Metallica, and they are the originals.

[Gina]

I agree very much.  A lot of metal bands DO sound the same, but as Megan said, those aren't the kinds of metal bands I'm into.  And you're right, it is nice to have a friendly debate/discussion about something on here.

[MeganJane]

Yes, certainly. I enjoy discussing our opinions in a respectful manner, without anyone posting anything juvenile like "you're stupid"  :roll:


  So thanks guys

[Ryou-Neko]

It's delightful, really. Try saying anything on the Saddle Creek Board. It's horrible. [/url]

[Gina]

  Many many boards are that way.  That's why I only post on... two.

[kev222]

Do any Nessaholics like METAL?

where's Kev222 when we need him??

Do any Nessaholics like METAL?

Heavy metal is the perfection of music. The dawn of heavy metal rendered all other guitar based music obsolete. The only purpose of non-metal was to bring about the creation of heavy metal, mere stepping stones. Other genres are now superfluous. Other music is a waste of materials, human resources and time that could be better spent on heavy metal.

Although I dispute that nu-metal (or pseudo-metal as I like to call it) is a heavy metal genre. But I won't go into that rant or you'll never shut me up.