Discussion of the new song Heroes And Thieves (lyrics etc.)

[KULPDOGG]

i haven't dowloaded that recording yet, but here is what i got from my recording...


Well disaster it strikes on a daily basis
And I'm looking for wisdom in all the wrong places
But still wanna laugh in disappointed faces
You can't hold me, blinded by these

Heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I've figured it out
Well darling it's you I'm without

Well I'm stubborn and wrong
but at least I'm (noted?)
I keep moving along
and hope I can get through this
And maybe this song is the best I can do it
So I'm patiently waiting on these

Heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I've figured it out
Well darling it's you
Darling it's you
Darling it's you I'm without

Your comforting logic
Like these days are (?)
No one's honest
And I see a solitude that I can't find without you

Da da da

It seems like I'm getting closer somehow
A flicker of peace that I've finally found
Thank you for believing in me now
cause I do need it

Give me a year or two
And I'll mend my ways and see these mistakes
And when I see the truth
Well darling trust me
When I can't see
I'll be coming back
I'll be coming back to you

These heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I've figured it out
Well darling it's you
Darling it's you
Darling it's you I'm without

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here goes another shot, thanks Nicole!
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Well, disaster it strikes on a daily basis
I'm looking for wisdom in all the wrong places
But still wanna laugh in disappointed faces
And you can't hold me
Blinded by these

Heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I figure it out
Well darling it's you I'm without

Well I'm stubborn and wrong
But at least I’m noticed
I keep moving along
And hope I can get through this
Maybe this song is the best I can do it
So I’m patiently, waiting on these
 
Heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I figure it out
Well, darling it's you
Darling it's you
Well, darling it's you I'm without

Your comforting logic
Like these days of low life
Honest, And I see a solitude
That I can't find without you
Ah
da da da

It seems like I'm getting closer to you
A flicker of peace that I’ve finally found
Thank you for believing in me now
Cause I do need it

And give me a year or two
And I’ll mend my ways
And see these mistakes
And when I see the truth
Darling, trust me
When I can't see

I'll be coming back
I'll be coming back to you

These heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I figure it out
Well darling it's you
Darling, it's you,
Darling, it's you I'm without
Ah
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Honestly, there are probally things I'm hearing just because of the way this recording is, but maybe not. I won't know for sure until I can hear another version.

Nicole, could you please go over your version again, and point out the things we have different, and see if you agree or dissagree with me after listening to them again.
then download the version I'm listening to, and listen to the parts where our lyrics differ. :?

[Manny]

liquidblue244 wrote:
Ohhhh.....I just got all teary-eyed....that was such a pretty song.....she has really improved so much in the past few years in the song writing department. I am so touched right now.

I actually don't like her new stuff as much as her older songs.... apart from All Is Well (which has that dark "edge" I like), they're good, but a bit too "pop" for me... does anyone else feel the same way?

I agree with you. I was more or less hoping that the new material would be in the same direction as the second half of Harmonium (HAWBTW, C'est la vie), but until now I haven't heard anything like it.

Not that I don't like the new songs, because I do like them.....sort of. But they are not as good as her older songs.

 I'm really hoping Morning Sting will be on the new album. That song was great.

ditto

[PutYourHandsOnMe101]

^^^ Really??? I'm liking all of her new songs but I'm sure the rest of the album will have edgier stuff for you darker Nessa fans

[charmedguy18]

liquidblue244 wrote:
Ohhhh.....I just got all teary-eyed....that was such a pretty song.....she has really improved so much in the past few years in the song writing department. I am so touched right now.

I actually don't like her new stuff as much as her older songs.... apart from All Is Well (which has that dark "edge" I like), they're good, but a bit too "pop" for me... does anyone else feel the same way?

I agree with you. I was more or less hoping that the new material would be in the same direction as the second half of Harmonium (HAWBTW, C'est la vie), but until now I haven't heard anything like it.

Not that I don't like the new songs, because I do like them.....sort of. But they are not as good as her older songs.

I'm really hoping Morning Sting will be on the new album. That song was great.

It won't be.

[PutYourHandsOnMe101]

^^^ I think you're right... and even though I like Morning Sting I don't think it should be included on the new album.

[PianoPlayer12]

liquidblue244 wrote:
Ohhhh.....I just got all teary-eyed....that was such a pretty song.....she has really improved so much in the past few years in the song writing department. I am so touched right now.

I actually don't like her new stuff as much as her older songs.... apart from All Is Well (which has that dark "edge" I like), they're good, but a bit too "pop" for me... does anyone else feel the same way?

I agree with you. I was more or less hoping that the new material would be in the same direction as the second half of Harmonium (HAWBTW, C'est la vie), but until now I haven't heard anything like it.

Not that I don't like the new songs, because I do like them.....sort of. But they are not as good as her older songs.

I'm really hoping Morning Sting will be on the new album. That song was great.

It won't be.

How do you know it wont be? We wont know until it comes out.

[whitehouses81680]

i think its IM STUBBORN, ITS WRONG, BUT AT LEAST I KNOW IT

[MeganJane]

liquidblue244 wrote:
Ohhhh.....I just got all teary-eyed....that was such a pretty song.....she has really improved so much in the past few years in the song writing department. I am so touched right now.

I actually don't like her new stuff as much as her older songs.... apart from All Is Well (which has that dark "edge" I like), they're good, but a bit too "pop" for me... does anyone else feel the same way?

I agree with you. I was more or less hoping that the new material would be in the same direction as the second half of Harmonium (HAWBTW, C'est la vie), but until now I haven't heard anything like it.

Not that I don't like the new songs, because I do like them.....sort of. But they are not as good as her older songs.

I'm really hoping Morning Sting will be on the new album. That song was great.

It won't be.

How do you know it wont be? We wont know until it comes out.

I doubt it, but I can hope. That song is my favourite of Vanessa's.  To me, it is perfection.

[Vanity]

I also love Morning Sting, but unfortunately I doubt it's going to be on the new album. If it was to be on an album, it would have been Harmonium. But we can all hope

[PianoGirl4444]

I agree..."Morning Sting" might just be my absolute favorite V song EVER, but I would bet serious money she's never going to release it.   :cry:

[Ryou-Neko]

Ohhhh.....I just got all teary-eyed....that was such a pretty song.....she has really improved so much in the past few years in the song writing department.  I am so touched right now.

Hey sexy. ;-)

Did I miss something? And where can I get a recording, dammit?

[joey]

Ohhhh.....I just got all teary-eyed....that was such a pretty song.....she has really improved so much in the past few years in the song writing department.  I am so touched right now.

Hey sexy. ;-)

Did I miss something? And where can I get a recording, dammit?

thats just cavin hitting on some guy....

 :|

and heres a download link

[clamicas]

I agree..."Morning Sting" might just be my absolute favorite V song EVER, but I would bet serious money she's never going to release it.   :cry:

yeah, it's my all time v fav song too

[me and my piano---tim]

oh cavin. i guess it works?

[KULPDOGG]

ok ok ok, here we go again.  I'm feelin really good about this one. I think we've finally got it here!
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Well, disaster it strikes on a daily basis
And I'm looking for wisdom in all the wrong places
But still wanna laugh at disappointed faces
And you can't help me
Blinded by these

Heroes and thieves at my door
I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I figured out
Well darlin' it's you I'm without

Well I'm stubborn and wrong
But at least I know it
I keep moving along
And hope I can get through this
Maybe this song is the best I can do it
So I’m patiently waiting on these

Heroes and thieves at my door
And I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I figured out
Well, darlin' it's you
Darlin' it's you
Well, darlin' it's you I'm without

Your comforting logic
Like these days are low ones
I'll kiss, and I see a solitude
That I can't find without you
Ah
da da da

It seems like I'm getting closer to him
A flicker of peace that I’ve finally found
Thank you for believing in me now
Cause I do need it

And give me a year or two
And I’ll mend my ways
And see these mistakes
And when I see the truth
Well darlin', trust me
When I can't see

I'll be coming back
I'll be coming back to you

These heroes and thieves at my door
And I can't seem to tell them apart anymore
And just when I figured out
Well darlin' it's you
Darlin', it's you,
Darlin', it's you I'm without
Ah
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notice all the changes? (here, I'll bold some)
thanks to being able to see Vanessa actually sing, (her mouth move) I managed to figure out some changes.