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Completely Off-Topic / protect marriage?

« on: October 22, 2008, 09:43:30 pm »

Best (note my sarcasm) argument I've heard for Prop 8, ever:


Prop 8 supporter to her friend: I'm in favor of Prop 8 because, I mean, that court decision totally goes against our rights to freedom of religion. It's like, hello, you already have the exact same rights as the rest of us, so who cares if it's called "marriage" or not? There are some of us who actually, you know, have morals and it isn't very fair for them to rub this like, sacred thing in our faces. Ugh. Plus, I mean, then they're going to start teaching kids about gay marriage when they're like, five. Can you imagine? I mean, little kids should not be exposed to that kind of stuff. It's totally brainwashing them! Oh, it'll be awful, cause I mean, they'll want to marry their best friend or something. Oh my God, and also, they like, shut down churches that don't perform gay marriages. Can you say "separation of church and state"? I respect your lack of faith and all, but don't force us to conform to your stupid principles. Besides, every gay person I've talked to, like, doesn't care about getting married. The only people who seem to be all angry about it are people who won't ever be affected by it unless they choose to be gay too, so it's like, what do you know about gay marriage? You're not gay.

Her friend: Well, if marriage is so sacred, why don't we outlaw divorce and adultery, too?

Her: Well, that's different.



*facepalm* I don't think I need to explain the stupidity in this one, do I? I paraphrased a little because in the middle she started going on about how people who don't recite the whole Pledge of Allegiance need to "get over themselves; America is a Christian country and pretty much all religions believe in God anyway, so it's not like there's anyone that matters who'd actually offended".

More importantly, though, is Prop 4. If Prop 4 passes I will remain in bed for a week, weeping for the future of our allegedly blue state (not to mention our supposedly just nation).[/b]

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Completely Off-Topic / protect marriage?

« on: October 21, 2008, 06:35:19 pm »

The Mormons at our school (I don't know why, but we have a rather enormous Mormon community here) banded together to write a rather rage-inducing piece for the school newspaper. This is almost as bad as the Pro-Palin essay last month.

Proposition 8: Apples are Apples

In November 2000, 61% of the voting population in California officially
defined marriage in this state as a union between a man and a woman. In no
wise was any of the wording or intent of this legislation designed to
discriminate or deny same gender relationships of rights, privileges, or
respect. Then, in May of 2008, four San Francisco based California Judges of
the Supreme Court decided that they knew better than the majority of the
people in this state. Democracy was put on hold as the will of the people
was ignored. The original proposition and definition of traditional marriage
was overturned and same gender marriages were legalized in California. With
the upcoming ballot this November, voters are faced with a decision to
restore the definition of marriage or to constitutionally allow same gender
relationships to obtain the status of marriage. This is Proposition 8.

On the ballot, Proposition 8 states that, "Only marriage between a man and a
woman is valid or recognized in California.". This means a "Yes" vote on
Prop. 8 respects the voice of the people of California and defines marriage
to exist between one man and one woman. A "No" vote will continue to allow
same gender marriages under the protection of the California Constitution.

Now, let us be exceedingly clear. In no way does proposition 8 take away or
deny any rights to homosexual relationships. This is the biggest
misconception surrounding this issue. Proposition 8 is about traditional
marriage and what defines it. This is not an attack on same gender
relationships and their rights. Nothing in this proposition is about hate,
intolerance, discrimination, or inequality. Homosexual couples already enjoy
the same significant rights in a Civil Union as a heterosexual couple does
in Marriage. Nothing is denied. Nothing is held back. Nothing is unfair. So
why the controversy? Why do we have to vote on this again? Homosexuals want
their union to be defined in the same way asa marriage between a man and a
woman. The fact is; they're different. We can define an apple as an orange
all day long. But at the end of the day, the apple is still an apple. The
word Marriage came about to define the joining of a man and a woman together
in legal bonds of matrimony. This definition has been upheld for thousands
of years. Who are we to alter the essence of that definition? Marriage is
what Marriage is. Changing that would require a new word (Domestic
Partnership maybe?).

So we've discussed a lot about what is and what isn't. But why do we care?
Why do we want to protect the tradition of Marriage? First and foremost, it
comes to family. The traditional family unit is the basic and fundamental
foundation of every society in history. The protection of that unit is a
high priority and not without good reason. If the family fails, so follows
society. The following are some statistics that signal the potential
undermining of the family and society should same gender marriages be
legalized.

- 63% of youth that commit suicide come from fatherless homes.

- 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.

- 75% of adolescent patients in drug abuse centers come from fatherless
homes.

- 85% of all youth sitting in prison come from fatherless homes.

Clearly, the ideal situation for raising children falls to a healthy home
with a father and a mother. While not all fatherless homes result in this
same way, the facts speak for themselves when it comes to same gender
couples raising children. The children of this nation are also the future of
this nation. All children deserve the right to be raised by a father and a
mother. Children raised in such circumstances fare better in the above
mentioned areas. Unfortunately, far too many children fall short of this
ideal. To us, that sounds like inequality.

Just like both of the presidential candidates and their running mates, we
support traditional marriage and all the benefits therein. We believe in the
strength of the family led by a loving mother and father. In this faltering
world, the role of a strong family is more crucial than at any other time in
history. Though the will of the California voters has been rejected once,
the chance to re-affirm our voice is at hand. We want our apples to be
apples. Please remember; This is not about hate or malice. This is not an
anti-gay movement. It is a pro-marriage act. No hard feelings or prejudice
accompanies this piece of legislation. Personally, we respect the choices of
every individual, but let Marriage be defined as what it was designed for.

I am so enraged right now. Did you know that my school has a Christian club, a Mormon club, and a Conservative club? The only token liberal clubs were Go Green and GSA but nobody ever attended them so they're gone.

Did I mention we're less than an hour's drive from SAN FRANCISCO?

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Completely Off-Topic / People have sex during valentines day

« on: October 18, 2008, 07:57:30 pm »

My birthday was on October 14th, although I was actually born a month early. Haha.

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Completely Off-Topic / Have you ever wondered why?

« on: September 16, 2008, 06:44:34 pm »

Why am I stuck in the same place (not literally) I was three years ago, even though my values and aspirations have changed so drastically? Why can't I motivate myself to achieve even the most basic of goals?

Why do I only find Michael Phelps attractive when he has his serious face on and/or is wearing a swimsuit? Actually, don't answer that. I'm pretty sure I know why.

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Other Musicians / Demi Lovato

« on: September 04, 2008, 09:12:31 pm »

As for "rocking harder than Avril", I don't think so. She covers Avril's "Daydream" and changed the lyrics to be more "appropriate". I figure that if you're catering to a 10-year-old audience, it's pretty hard to rock out. Same goes for the Jonas Brothers themselves.

That's why I said I'm ready for someone to outrock Avril and hoping she can mature into something legit. I don't know much about your little specific example, but I don't think that's enough to say it can't happen.

I don't think it can't happen, I just think it's hard to compare. That's all. That being said, we still haven't heard her album yet (unless it leaked already), so who knows?

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Other Musicians / Demi Lovato

« on: August 31, 2008, 06:50:56 pm »

re: Hanson phenomena
Or at least subconscious jealousy. Ever go onto gossip websites and notice how the posters have nothing but nasty comments for the female celebrities, but have nothing but praise for the male ones? Most of the posters are women/girls.

As for "rocking harder than Avril", I don't think so. She covers Avril's "Daydream" and changed the lyrics to be more "appropriate". I figure that if you're catering to a 10-year-old audience, it's pretty hard to rock out. Same goes for the Jonas Brothers themselves.

That being said, I hope her album is more like her first single than the awful awful awful awful "This Is Me".

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Entertainment - Movies / TV / Books / The Mole

« on: August 28, 2008, 05:29:48 pm »

Is there any truth to the rumor that this is being cancelled? I hope not. Anderson Cooper should come back. That'd attract viewers.

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Other Musicians / Michelle Branch

« on: August 28, 2008, 05:24:55 pm »

No new album until at least February 2009.    That sucks.

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Completely Off-Topic / Ever hung out/became friends with a celebrity/semi-celeb?

« on: August 28, 2008, 05:19:06 pm »

I touched the title character of Charlie's Great Adventure (a kids' book, I don't know how popular it is). The author attended my school.

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Polls / USA/CANADA

« on: August 17, 2008, 05:38:01 pm »

Ketchup-flavored potato chips. Really now, Canada?

Seriously, they don't have those where you live?
My family always gets those as well as salt and vinegar, regularly.

I draw the line at baked chicken.

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Completely Off-Topic / English Fail?

« on: August 12, 2008, 08:10:17 pm »

There's a store near where I live called "Cheaper Than Cheaper". Their slogan, copied verbatim:

"Smile, your saving. alot of money."

Quotation marks and all.

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Completely Off-Topic / 2008 Summer Olympics Beijing, China

« on: August 12, 2008, 08:07:39 pm »

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Polls / USA/CANADA

« on: August 12, 2008, 07:58:04 pm »

Yo Canada. Saving your energy for Vancouver '10, huh?

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Polls / Do you wear makeup? (for girls)

« on: August 12, 2008, 07:52:04 pm »

Long answer: I think I kind of missed the boat as far as makeup goes. At the beginning of sixth grade, no one I knew wore or even mentioned makeup. And yet somehow by the start of high school everybody knew everything there was to know and I was like wtf? How did everyone learn so much about makeup? Not just the technique in putting it on, but like what all of the thousands of different kinds of foundation/coverup/concealer are supposed to do and the technique to use them. So basically, if I knew how to wear makeup properly... I would totally do it. I've tried learning before, but everyone who's tried to teach me doesn't understand how little I know. Whatever. It's been so long since it all started. [/pointless, frustrated rambling]

Short answer: no, never

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Polls / USA/CANADA

« on: August 09, 2008, 03:08:19 pm »

Ketchup-flavored potato chips. Really now, Canada?