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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2008, 01:34:49 am »
Does anyone know the sales of "Heroes & Thieves" ? The last number we had was 81'000 at the end of 2007.

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« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2008, 06:14:53 am »
I have heard that sales worlwide were about 350,000 copies.. no?


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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2008, 06:35:15 am »
If it's true I think it's kinda good !

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« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2008, 07:29:48 am »
I don't think it's anywhere near 350,000 worldwide.

It was at the 100,000 mark back in January.

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« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2008, 10:48:42 am »
We're at the end of July, and Hands on me was a kinda "hit" in some places

I'm quite sure, it's about 300,000 copies..


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« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2008, 12:37:45 pm »
"hands on me" wasn't a hit anywhere, and we're definitley not at 300,000 copies, lol.

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« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2008, 12:38:45 pm »
forgive me everyone! is it a dumb question to ask how to obtain sales figures?
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« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2008, 05:57:48 am »
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forgive me everyone! is it a dumb question to ask how to obtain sales figures?


It's not. I also wanna know !

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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2008, 04:06:32 am »
for active albums that are still on the Billboard 200, we can know the sale figures through some music forum (I usually check the Pulse Music Board)

for old albums like H&T, it is hard. Sometimes Billboard articles do slip sale figures of the artist but it is not often. You can ask a guy in the Ask Billboard colum or the artist's label itself, lol.

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« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2008, 10:32:23 pm »
It annoys the hell out of me that she is not more popular. Unfortunately, Heroes and Thieves was a flop. I have a few ideas for what she can do in the future. I think the goal should be to get to a point where she can afford to release cds every few years. Possible venues in order to do this
1. Pursue using her music or at least a few songs as actual soundtrack music-did they even try with this last cd??
2. Market to the correct audience-I honestly do not get why her labels keep on trying to push her for a younger pop audience. Her music is made for an Ac/Hot Ac/Triple A crowd. Why fight it?
3. Think about writing songs for other people. All she needs is a song or two that she had a hand in writing to blow up or hell, even make it onto a major artist's cd and she could fund or help fund many, many cds from that.
I am so afraid that eventually she will not make another cd. I have seen artists fade into total obscurity before for financial or just fed up with it reasons and I would hate to see that happen to her so much. All she needs to do is find a way to keep funds moving in and have the right song at the right moment promoted the right way. The Kohls thing is good-I am hoping whatever her involvement is paid off for her.

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« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2008, 05:37:20 am »
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2. Market to the correct audience-I honestly do not get why her labels keep on trying to push her for a younger pop audience. Her music is made for an Ac/Hot Ac/Triple A crowd. Why fight it?


I've been thinking this, too. The Inc. seems to want to pus her on the younger crowd because that's who most of their artists are marketed toward. She'd do better going with the older crowd like Nora Jones and all of those people.

Don't worry, though. Two of my other favorite artists, Cyndi Lauper and Tracy Chapman, had very successful first albums too, but people stopped buying and now they play to a loyal audience of fans, so Vanessa will continue to make music. What the Inc is trying to do is win back the ATM crowd, and it just isn't going to happen. Vanessa is growing out of that pop genre and doing more mature stuff. Hopefully The Inc. and Stevie can help keep her relevant.

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« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2008, 06:06:12 am »
They really need to sell H&T at starbucks and places like that, i could see a lot of those people who sit there and read or whatever listening to her.

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« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2008, 09:16:49 am »
Those a good ideas Czarina !

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« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2008, 04:17:00 pm »
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They really need to sell H&T at starbucks and places like that, i could see a lot of those people who sit there and read or whatever listening to her.


I totally agree! That would be awesome. People just assume she's such a pop princess because of "A Thousand Miles," but if they saw her album sitting with all those other "chill" artists like Sheryl Crow and Alanis Morissette, they might be more willing to give her a lesson.

That's kinda funny..  :lol:

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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2008, 04:27:27 pm »
Sheryl Crow is more of a pop princess with that love is free song than vanessa has ever been.