Poll

Which Determines How We Act?

Nature
2 (14.3%)
Nurture
2 (14.3%)
Both
10 (71.4%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: November 21, 2003, 06:41:54 pm

Author Topic: Nature vs. Nurture  (Read 5643 times)

jlmusicchick

  • Keepin' secrets at midnight
  • *****
  • Posts: 3469
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« on: November 21, 2003, 06:41:54 pm »
personally, i think it's both. i don't think you can have one without the other. However i know that there are people who do disagree with that. I'm interested in what people think about it.

LimeTwister

  • Guest
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2003, 07:00:55 pm »
i would say both.

Lucy-san

  • Guest
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2003, 07:27:37 pm »
I dont understand what you mean by nurture in this context...

Holly

  • VCUBs
  • Speeding into the horizon
  • *
  • Posts: 4610
  • Twin Stars
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2003, 10:30:33 pm »
i said both..
by nurture, do you mean how we treat others and how we're treated?
and nature is just like born insticts right?
"i'm willing to do anything
to calm the storm in my heart
i've never been the praying kind
but lately i've been down upon my knees
not looking for a miracle
just a reason to believe"

loveplasticlove

  • Moderators
  • You never thought it'd hurt so bad
  • *****
  • Posts: 2576
  • more rides than great adventure
    • AOL Instant Messenger - loveplasticlove
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2003, 12:34:09 am »
its def both... why all the psych threads? I come here for fun... not school part 2 hahah jk :)
"I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist."  -Marilyn Manson
SuperScientific: I have a eggroll to shove in your rice patty lol

tylor2000

  • You never thought it'd hurt so bad
  • *****
  • Posts: 2930
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2003, 12:52:33 am »
I say both but I tend to lean toward nurture.  I know of too many people who lean toward nature and try to use that as justification for all kinds of prejudices including race and such things.  So I'm the kind of person who aurgues the nurture side all the time just to rebutt them and provide some kind of balance to the backwards conversation.

tylor

PintOGuinness

  • VCUBs
  • Your true colors shown
  • *
  • Posts: 637
  • My face is on milk cartons
    • ICQ Messenger - 3162963
    • AOL Instant Messenger - PintOGuinnessVC
    • View Profile
    • http://www.buckheadyouthorchestra.com
    • Email
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2003, 06:08:50 am »
Nurture... I believe anyone can become anything... In the right situation, under the right circumstances... a person can be changed into anything.  I also believe that that person can eventually fight against every natural instict they have.  Face it, there are skinny people in fat families, there are Democrats coming to the bible belt for Thanksgiving dinner, and there are very successful professionals that commit suicide or turn to crime... I think the Nature argument makes everyone feel good, but like most arguments that make people feel good, doesn't hold much water.
-- Jason

Dancernl

  • Fine as dandelions
  • *****
  • Posts: 1828
    • AOL Instant Messenger - balletstar86
    • View Profile
    • http://homepage.mac.com/dancernl/Menu9.html
    • Email
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2003, 06:15:49 am »
Quote from: "loveplasticlove"
its def both... why all the psych threads? I come here for fun... not school part 2 hahah jk :)

yeah really sis!  Stop being all smarter than me! :wink:


Nurture, because humans have learned culture.  Some would even argue that humans have no instincts at all and we learn everything through socialization and enculturation starting from birth.  Intuition can be attributed not to insticts but from learned behavior that's been subconsciously instilled.  When someone talks about "maternal instinct" it does not refer to a programmed resonse (which is what anomals do) but remembering what our mothers did for us when we were infant.  Our brains did not develop so we could visually remember infancy, but we still have that learned behavior.
It is a crime to kill a neighbor, and an act of heroism to kill an enemy.  But who is an enemy and who is a neighbor is purely a matter of social definition.  - E.R. Leach

jlmusicchick

  • Keepin' secrets at midnight
  • *****
  • Posts: 3469
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2003, 06:45:31 am »
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Quote from: "loveplasticlove"
its def both... why all the psych threads? I come here for fun... not school part 2 hahah jk :)

yeah really sis!  Stop being all smarter than me! :wink:


woo hoo! i'm finally smarter at my sister at something!  :D j/k

Lucy - by nature i mean natural instincts that we're born with. Nurture is how we are raised by others (could be your parents, siblings, guardian...)

Nicole - lol i'm really into the whole psychology thing  :oops:  we were supposed to do 250 on explaining nature and nurture and mine ended up over 1200....

anywhose, i think it's both because while we are all born with natural born instincts, those instincts can be changed and shaped (insert skinner/pavlov reference here). My example was an adopted child. That child could be naturally loud and outgoing, but its parents may not accept those qualities. So, the child suppresses those qualities to please its parents. Even though it is no longer loud and outgoing, those instincts are still there.

Lucy-san

  • Guest
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2003, 06:36:13 pm »
I dont know...but its definitely not my choice...

Grakthis

  • VCUBs
  • Keepin' secrets at midnight
  • *
  • Posts: 3983
  • Lord Andrew
    • AOL Instant Messenger - Grakthis
    • View Profile
    • http://www.grakthis.com
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2003, 08:35:14 am »
The answer has to be both..... here's why.

Your NATURE sets a percent chance for a person to be a specific way, but your nurture determines the actual choice.

It's like asking "what decides if a basketball goes in the hoop?  The distance of the shot or the person shooting the ball?"

The answer is both.  The person shooting the ball decides if he makes it or not, but the distance from the goal alters his chances.
If you are reading this, you are probably on my ignore list.  Click here to return the favor

Wagella Wrote:Yay for Bigotry!!

---Andrew

loveplasticlove

  • Moderators
  • You never thought it'd hurt so bad
  • *****
  • Posts: 2576
  • more rides than great adventure
    • AOL Instant Messenger - loveplasticlove
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2003, 09:58:10 am »
Quote from: "Grakthis"
I'm a basketball head.
"I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist."  -Marilyn Manson
SuperScientific: I have a eggroll to shove in your rice patty lol

Grakthis

  • VCUBs
  • Keepin' secrets at midnight
  • *
  • Posts: 3983
  • Lord Andrew
    • AOL Instant Messenger - Grakthis
    • View Profile
    • http://www.grakthis.com
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2003, 10:16:35 am »
Quote from: "loveplasticlove"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
I'm a basketball head.


*kicks "nicole" in the shin*
If you are reading this, you are probably on my ignore list.  Click here to return the favor

Wagella Wrote:Yay for Bigotry!!

---Andrew

rosieposy87

  • VCUBs
  • Keepin' secrets at midnight
  • *
  • Posts: 3394
  • Prat Twin #2
    • MSN Messenger - rosie_posy87@hotmail.com
    • AOL Instant Messenger - rosieposy87
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2003, 10:16:49 am »
I believe a very small percentage of it is nature. I honestly believe that people can be brought up to be whatever- you put them in a different situation and who knows what could happen.
"I'm all about the wordplay."

loveplasticlove

  • Moderators
  • You never thought it'd hurt so bad
  • *****
  • Posts: 2576
  • more rides than great adventure
    • AOL Instant Messenger - loveplasticlove
    • View Profile
Nature vs. Nurture
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2003, 10:29:44 am »
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "loveplasticlove"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
I'm a basketball head.


*kicks "nicole" in the shin*


ahhahahah <3
"I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist."  -Marilyn Manson
SuperScientific: I have a eggroll to shove in your rice patty lol