Diets

[Grakthis]

andrew i dont agree - i just meant i cheated because i had wanted a bagel and the atkins brand one made me so sick - so i felt i deserved it because i had lost weight i hadnt even realized i had lost

Stephie,  This is not a "disagree" vs "agree" thing because this is not my opinion.  This is something addiction specialists will tell you.  I am not a diet expert so I have no actual opinion of my own on this.  I just have regurgitated info I have read over the years.

That said, this notion of using something that is off your diet as a "reward" has been pretty well decried as bad for YEARS.  For example, if an alcoholic goes 6 months without a drink, does he or she reward themselves with a beer?  When your toilet train your dog do you reward him by letting him pee in the bedroom?  Why do these come across as "duh" but people think it is ok to reward themselves on their diets by eating outside of the diet?  This is counterproductive.

Using food as a reward is listed on almost every website you find as a sign of an eating disorder.

As soon as you start rewarding yourself with foods you know you aren't supposed to be eating then you are also demonstrating that you are on a temporary diet and not an actual lifestyle change.  This is bad because it strongly suggests that you will just go back to eating poorly as soon as you hit your target weight.

Rewards are ok.  But the reward should never be counterproductive to the goal.  That is  motivation theory 101.

[LimeTwister]

yes, you have to have a lifestyle change!....

or so the blonde shaved haird lady says....

goes to go eat a piece of cake, and to die a lonely fat death...WHAT? I will be fat if I don't have a lifestyle change either! 8O

[Dancernl]

I think that out of everything I've tried (and I have tried just about EVERYTHING) WeightWatchers is the best.  My mom joined when it was still free and the points system was just starting out.  The best part is, you can eat whatever you want!  Just budget what you eat so you don't go over your points.  Like, if you want a Grilled cheese sandwich and chocolate cake, you can have it, it just cost you 20 points though.  So, if you are allowed 24 points a day, you only have 4 points left ot eat foods worth 0 points (like veggies and salad).  It's easy, if you can add, you can do it.  Mostly, it's common sense and eating in moderation, only tailored into a better system for people like me.  It really does work.

[Grakthis]

I think that out of everything I've tried (and I have tried just about EVERYTHING) WeightWatchers is the best.  My mom joined when it was still free and the points system was just starting out.  The best part is, you can eat whatever you want!  Just budget what you eat so you don't go over your points.  Like, if you want a Grilled cheese sandwich and chocolate cake, you can have it, it just cost you 20 points though.  So, if you are allowed 24 points a day, you only have 4 points left ot eat foods worth 0 points (like veggies and salad).  It's easy, if you can add, you can do it.  Mostly, it's common sense and eating in moderation, only tailored into a better system for people like me.  It really does work.

Truth.  But most people who NEED to diet can't limit themselves like that.  If they could, they wouldn't need to diet.  And there is the flaw in the entire system.

[loveplasticlove]

I'd have to say that I agree with Andrew on the whole reward system.  I have not cheated so far and I don't want to because I know that I might end up feeling bad and eat my whole kitchen OR I will realize what I'm missing out on and again eat my whole kitchen.  If I want to reward myself... I'mm going to MAC or maybe even buy smaller clothes once there is that difference!

And if you eat a major carb like that... your body will hold onto it because it knows it might not get more carbs like that for a while and you will gain water weight.

[divasteph]

first - i still disagree
second - i have lost another pound - so it really doesn't matter!
xoxo
 

[Grakthis]

first - i still disagree
second - i have lost another pound - so it really doesn't matter!
xoxo
 

First - Realize you are disagreeing with hundreds of psychologists and behavior specialists who all know more about psychology than you do.

Second - You would have lost 3+ pounds had you not eaten the bagel.  So it does matter.

@ 'nicole' - Right! Smart girl

[rosieposy87]

Ahhh i am understanding how hard this dieting thing is! I WANT BUTTER! I WANT GOATS CHEESE! I WANT A CHOCOLATE CROISSANT! Its just not nice, and no proper bread either- not fun!

[neos]

Argh tomorrow I have an appointment with the doctor, and I'll hopefully be starting a diet soon, I'm a bit scared though  :?

[jlmusicchick]

I think that out of everything I've tried (and I have tried just about EVERYTHING) WeightWatchers is the best.  My mom joined when it was still free and the points system was just starting out.  The best part is, you can eat whatever you want!  Just budget what you eat so you don't go over your points.  Like, if you want a Grilled cheese sandwich and chocolate cake, you can have it, it just cost you 20 points though.  So, if you are allowed 24 points a day, you only have 4 points left ot eat foods worth 0 points (like veggies and salad).  It's easy, if you can add, you can do it.  Mostly, it's common sense and eating in moderation, only tailored into a better system for people like me.  It really does work.

Truth.  But most people who NEED to diet can't limit themselves like that.  If they could, they wouldn't need to diet.  And there is the flaw in the entire system.

yep, she lost so much weight, and she's been able to keep almost all of it off! The important thing to remember is that you have to excerisce. have to have to. you can diet till the cows come home, but without movement you can still not be fit.

And i have to agree with Steph that just because you 'reward' yourself doesn't necessarily mean that you're starting an eating disorder. My mom rewards herself with doughnuts every once in a while, but does that mean she has an eating disorder? no. i think that it depends on the case and on the person. you know? like, if a person is really obsessing over what they eat and it's all they think about then fine, but if it's someone making healthy, conscious decisions about what they eat, then it's fine to say they're rewarding themselves without assuming that it's the first sign to an eating disorder. just my opinion though

[divasteph]

weight watchers counting points seems just like what i do - only with carbs --- I can have 20 carbs - so if i eat 18 carbs at lunch by eating "whatever has 18 carbs" - then for dinner i can only have meat and carb free veggies
same deal - i can have whatever i want

popcorn in one cup of pop corn there are 14 carbs - so i can have half a cup and limit the rest of my carbs --- that way i don't crave the things i miss because i can eat them in small portions (except like french fries - that's an obvious no)

xoxo

[Tia]

Ahhh i am understanding how hard this dieting thing is! I WANT BUTTER! I WANT GOATS CHEESE! I WANT A CHOCOLATE CROISSANT! Its just not nice, and no proper bread either- not fun!

Awww...hang in there hun! It'll be worth it if it makes a difference!!

[loveplasticlove]

Why thank you Andrew...

[loveplasticlove]

I just used a keytone strip for the first time today I tested the second highest for amount of ketones! And if you test the highest... its bad. SO I got the best result!

keytones in your urine = burning fat

[divasteph]

go nikkee - i mean nicole!
so you like the keytone strips thus far?
and we should get them?
xoxo