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« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2004, 08:43:47 am »
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I say

Let 2 people who really love eachother marry eachother if they want to.
A man and a woman, a man and a man, a woman and a woman,
who gives a shit??

Some are such narrow minded people
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« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2004, 09:02:32 am »
Its not that Si, its that the definition of marriage is technically between a man and a woman....Wanting to change the definition is one thing, Wanting a legal unionship is another....Either way if they change the definition or create another type of marriage for gay people im glad
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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2004, 09:09:00 am »
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Its not that Si, its that the definition of marriage is technically between a man and a woman....Wanting to change the definition is one thing, Wanting a legal unionship is another....Either way if they change the definition or create another type of marriage for gay people im glad


"the definition of marriage is technically"?
lol
you're too funny

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I say

Let 2 people who really love eachother marry eachother if they want to.
A man and a woman, a man and a man, a woman and a woman,
who gives a shit??

Some are such narrow minded people
:headshake:


<3 let's get married haha jk


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« Reply #78 on: February 27, 2004, 09:14:55 am »
Whoah, never mind, i looked it up and now it says a legal bond between a man and a woman first off....then further down it mentions same sex marriage,  hehe, well then it looks like you guys win....I signed the petition anyways so dont even look at me sideways Si....plus you know i love ya =)
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« Reply #79 on: February 27, 2004, 09:18:31 am »
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Whoah, never mind, i looked it up and now it says a legal bond between a man and a woman first off....then further down it mentions same sex marriage,  hehe, well then it looks like you guys win....I signed the petition anyways so dont even look at me sideways Si....plus you know i love ya =)


I would never look at you sideways, lol
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« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2004, 09:43:06 am »
I am not really against "gay marriages", gay people have the same right to form a couple and be recognised as everyone else. Whether religion agrees with that shouldn't matter, because religious principles are not the law. I don't really like the idea of calling "marriage", but that's a minor issue. However, I am worried about what civil union would bring along. Like Ghis said, in France they have PACS, in Spain we have "parejas de hecho" (in some parts of the country), which are the equivalent to marriages, but easier to break and IMO they demand a lot less commitment. I am afraid some sort of gay union would be applicable to heterosexual couples, who can already celebrate traditional marriages, giving them the opportunity to receive the benefits of a marriage without suffering the consequences. That's my only issue against it, I'm not even sure it'd happen like that in the US, but it's part of my dilemma about making those unions legal.

(does this make any sense to anyone? I'm just not sure I explained myself right lol)

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« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2004, 09:46:21 am »
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I am not really against "gay marriages", gay people have the same right to form a couple and be recognised as everyone else. Whether religion agrees with that shouldn't matter, because religious principles are not the law. I don't really like the idea of calling "marriage", but that's a minor issue. However, I am worried about what civil union would bring along. Like Ghis said, in France they have PACS, in Spain we have "parejas de hecho" (in some parts of the country), which are the equivalent to marriages, but easier to break and IMO they demand a lot less commitment. I am afraid some sort of gay union would be applicable to heterosexual couples, who can already celebrate traditional marriages, giving them the opportunity to receive the benefits of a marriage without suffering the consequences. That's my only issue against it, I'm not even sure it'd happen like that in the US, but it's part of my dilemma about making those unions legal.

(does this make any sense to anyone? I'm just not sure I explained myself right lol)




Im with ya, but if you look up marriage in any online dictionary they list same sex as a definition as well
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« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2004, 10:25:24 am »
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Like Ghis said, in France they have PACS, in Spain we have "parejas de hecho" (in some parts of the country)


I'm glad someone noticed my post!! lol
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« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2004, 02:11:29 pm »
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Sorry guys, but I'm with the vultureboy. . .

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If god didn't want them to be gay he wouldn't have made them gay. Explain that to me please.

God did not make them gay, he gave man free will, and far too often man chooses sin over righteousness.


So you're saying God entrapped gay people?

btw, i signed the petition nicole

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« Reply #84 on: February 27, 2004, 02:17:50 pm »
Even though I am very catholic, I feel that Church and State should be two COMPLETELY different things. Although it is against God's will, the Constitution (i believe) seperates the church and state. I believe that banning gay marriages is completely against the Constitution.
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« Reply #85 on: February 27, 2004, 02:24:42 pm »
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Even though I am very catholic, I feel that Church and State should be two COMPLETELY different things. Although it is against God's will, the Constitution (i believe) seperates the church and state. I believe that banning gay marriages is completely against the Constitution.


What the Constitution means by separation of church and state is that the State shall never set it's own official religion (a la the Church of England) and that it will never prosecute/persectue people for practicing whichever religion they choose.

That's not to say an elected official can not take his own morality into account when making decisions...
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« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2004, 02:26:04 pm »
Si: Of course baby! ;)

And thanks to the people who signed it <3 yay!
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« Reply #87 on: February 27, 2004, 02:29:11 pm »
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Quote from: "Nagyovafan"
Even though I am very catholic, I feel that Church and State should be two COMPLETELY different things. Although it is against God's will, the Constitution (i believe) seperates the church and state. I believe that banning gay marriages is completely against the Constitution.


What the Constitution means by separation of church and state is that the State shall never set it's own official religion (a la the Church of England) and that it will never prosecute/persectue people for practicing whichever religion they choose.

That's not to say an elected official can not take his own morality into account when making decisions...


Oooh i get it. I was totally wrong  :oops:  I thought it was like, literally seperating Church matters and State matters from each other. but now i know...thanks for clearing that up :-) I still think that an elected official, whether it be the president or not, should not let his or hers personal beliefs get in the way of their decisions, imo.

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« Reply #88 on: February 27, 2004, 02:33:34 pm »
LOL...tell that to the framers of the Constitution...
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« Reply #89 on: February 27, 2004, 02:39:07 pm »
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LOL...tell that to the framers of the Constitution...

This makes me twitch since Seperation of Church and State is NOT in the Constitution!!!
It was in a completely seperate letter, not the law.