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Stop Congress from making the next iPod or VCR illegal!
« on: September 12, 2004, 07:31:43 pm »
Anyone who has ever used an iPod, taped TV shows, or made a mixtape for their friend needs to read this! Hollywood is pushing Congress to pass a bill that could make the VCR, CD-Rs, and iPods illegal.

http://savebetamax.org/

In late 70s, Hollywood tried to make the VCR illegal. Now they're at it again. Back then, Hollywood's lawyers argued that because *some* people might use a VCR to make illegal copies, they had a right to sue *any* business that sold VCRs.

Fortunately for the future of technology, the Supreme Court said that any new technology with "substantial non-infringing uses" was legal and should be allowed to flourish. That wisdom, known as the "Betamax decision" (after VHS's short-lived predecessor) was great news for the economy: dozens of markets sprung up that would otherwise have been smothered by the fear of litigation and liability. And it was good news for Hollywood too: soon they were making billions in the same video rental market they tried to litigate out of existence.

But now Hollywood (and the major record labels) are trying to undo "Betamax" with a new law that would let them sue any business that gave their customers freedom to make legal copies. The music and movie companies claim they only want to ban p2p filesharing software like Kazaa. But legal experts say that dozens of products--even Apple's hugely popular "iPod"--would soon find themselves under the gun. We need to stop this from happening, and the time to act is now.

http://savebetamax.org/

This legislation is called the INDUCE Act, and it's opposed by the mainstream technology industry (eBay, Google, Intel, Verizon, and Yahoo have all lobbied against it) along with public interest advocates like Public Knowledge and even librarian groups. These companies and organizations are all making their voices heard in Washington, but now it's time that members of Congress hear from the public (you!).

We're organizing a national call-in day. The plan is: Senators who are siding with Hollywood against the public interest will receive a steady stream of phonecalls for as long as it takes. Think of it like a consumers' rights march on Washington that you can do from your home or your desk at work. Hollywood and the record companies have millions of lobbying dollars, but all we have are our numbers. If you think keeping the VCR legal was a good idea, we need you to act now:

http://savebetamax.org/

And finally, if for some reason you can't participate yourself, please forward this email to friends or coworkers who can.

Thanks for your time, and we hope you'll join this historic and extremely important event.

Sincerely,

Holmes Wilson
Tiffiniy Cheng
Nicholas Reville
Rebecca Laurie
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2004, 11:07:24 am »
yeah yeah yeah.  Good cause.  I'm on board.  Everyone else, do what Will says.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2004, 11:32:01 am »
Me too. I heartily endorse this event or product.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2004, 12:42:35 pm »
WTF damn the man!
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2004, 01:42:44 pm »
nooo. you'll never take me alive!!

*hides ipod in safe*

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2004, 01:48:30 pm »
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WTF damn the man!


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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2004, 05:37:14 pm »
Tomorrow is the day to call your congresscritter!
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2004, 06:11:23 pm »
That's absolutely insane; I can't see such a law getting anywhere. I may try calling my Senators, but I reeeeeeeeally don't want to speak to Barbar(ian)a Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, or anyone associated with them :evil:

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2004, 09:12:46 pm »
Miss I-Made-Handguns-Illegal-In-SF-but-I-Got-A-CCW-Because-I-Was-Mayor pisses me off sooo much. I hope she doesn't get reelected.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2004, 10:40:05 am »
Quote from: "m125boy"
Anyone who has ever used an iPod, taped TV shows, or made a mixtape for their friend needs to read this! Hollywood is pushing Congress to pass a bill that could make the VCR, CD-Rs, and iPods illegal.
Never used one of those ridiculously priced iPods, don't use my VCR, and I don't bother with CD-Rs.

So, why should I care?

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2004, 11:41:31 am »
Quote from: "keith"
Quote from: "m125boy"
Anyone who has ever used an iPod, taped TV shows, or made a mixtape for their friend needs to read this! Hollywood is pushing Congress to pass a bill that could make the VCR, CD-Rs, and iPods illegal.
Never used one of those ridiculously priced iPods, don't use my VCR, and I don't bother with CD-Rs.

So, why should I care?


Computer manufacturers could be sued out of business.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2004, 01:57:45 pm »
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Quote from: "keith"
Quote from: "m125boy"
Anyone who has ever used an iPod, taped TV shows, or made a mixtape for their friend needs to read this! Hollywood is pushing Congress to pass a bill that could make the VCR, CD-Rs, and iPods illegal.
Never used one of those ridiculously priced iPods, don't use my VCR, and I don't bother with CD-Rs.

So, why should I care?


Computer manufacturers could be sued out of business.
Just like with files sharing, even in the unlikely event that CDRs, VCRs, and mp3 players are outlawed, people will always find a way to cheat the law and do whatever the hell they want.

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2004, 01:40:21 pm »
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WTF damn the man!

Agreed.
But IPods are overrated in my opinion...
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2004, 02:35:30 pm »
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But IPods are overrated in my opinion...


You don't own one, now do you?
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2004, 03:33:33 pm »
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But IPods are overrated in my opinion...


You don't own one, now do you?
I don't own one either, but I think they are crap. Paying 99 cent per song. If I wanted to download a whole CD and it had 16 tracks, I'd be shelling out $16.00. I could go to the music store and pick up the CD for $10-$12, rip the songs, then put them on a better mp3 player (like an iRiver). And iPods are around $400--I could pick up one from RCA or iRiver for $149. I may not get 20 GB, but at least I can upload .wma files to it without any problems and it won't cost an arm and a leg to build my playlist.