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[VaderDawsn]

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[posted 8/6/2004 U.S.A.]

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[Will]

If you're making a MIDI, you already have the sheet music.

hmmm how to explain this..

this program i have takes MIDI recordings and translates them into sheet music.  all i have to do is play the MIDI recording and ill have the sheet music for WH.

You don't seem to get what I'm saying. A MIDI file stores the tempo of the song, the note, it's duration, it's dynamic level, and plenty of other things. Pretty much, the same stuff that is expressed in standard musical notation in sheet music. To make a MIDI file, you usually use a program like Finale with a MIDI keyboard and you play the song. The program then transcribes what you played and you can make any corrections you need to make on the score. After that, you export it to a MIDI file. I'm saying that you make the sheet music when you make the MIDI file anyway. Why not just ask for the sheet music?

[1vcfan]

If you're making a MIDI, you already have the sheet music.

hmmm how to explain this..

this program i have takes MIDI recordings and translates them into sheet music.  all i have to do is play the MIDI recording and ill have the sheet music for WH.

You don't seem to get what I'm saying. A MIDI file stores the tempo of the song, the note, it's duration, it's dynamic level, and plenty of other things. Pretty much, the same stuff that is expressed in standard musical notation in sheet music. To make a MIDI file, you usually use a program like Finale with a MIDI keyboard and you play the song. The program then transcribes what you played and you can make any corrections you need to make on the score. After that, you export it to a MIDI file. I'm saying that you make the sheet music when you make the MIDI file anyway. Why not just ask for the sheet music?

pshhhhhfh...hah i dont get it...im not toooo good with computer language?

[Jophess]

I'm trying to make a MIDI now, but I need someone to get on IM to help me with the notes.

[amberbeads]

I have a few questions about the lyrics.

And a few times she mentioned "the five of us" and that they were in love...With each other? Sorry, that was my first thought "Where's the love triangle and whatnot".

Just my random thoughts...

Err no. I think they were all her friends from ballet school- hence the 'little bunk of love'- and that they all fell in love one summer with different boys.

last i checked it was 'little bungalow' :?

[Xenophanes]

If you're making a MIDI, you already have the sheet music.

hmmm how to explain this..

this program i have takes MIDI recordings and translates them into sheet music.  all i have to do is play the MIDI recording and ill have the sheet music for WH.

You don't seem to get what I'm saying. A MIDI file stores the tempo of the song, the note, it's duration, it's dynamic level, and plenty of other things. Pretty much, the same stuff that is expressed in standard musical notation in sheet music. To make a MIDI file, you usually use a program like Finale with a MIDI keyboard and you play the song. The program then transcribes what you played and you can make any corrections you need to make on the score. After that, you export it to a MIDI file. I'm saying that you make the sheet music when you make the MIDI file anyway. Why not just ask for the sheet music?

pshhhhhfh...hah i dont get it...im not toooo good with computer language?

K...let me explain this to y'all. You're both sort of correct. Since there is no "official" sheet music for White Houses, one way to get sheets for it would indeed be to convert the mp3 file into an midi file. I'm pretty sure that what 1vcfan is referring to is not creating an midi file from scratch; rather, converting an mp3 to an midi as one would do wav to wma, mp3 to wma, etc. This method does not require the notes, duration, etc. to be known beforehand. Then, after converting to midi, one would feed the midi file through a program that converts midi to sheet music (something able to be done due the way, you're right m125 Boy, midis store information), and out it spits sheet music for the notes played in the midi file.

However, good luck reading it. NoteWorthy Composer is the most readable midi to sheet music converter I've yet used, but it's still a right terror trying to play what it gives you, particularly if you're using a track with all the little editing and mixing bells and whistles that White Houses has. You won't get just sheet music for the piano, you'll get it for the vocals and the violins and anything else that it picks up in the background...and it won't be separated into different staves for you. So my advice, just use Amanda's notes if you want to play it

On the "little bunk of love" "little bungalow" issue, amberbeads is right. It sounds like bungalow.

[DutchNessaHolic]

did you guys see the post rroo made at he's site and the o-board???

white houses video premiere on the 11th

[Gina]

yay  can't wait!

[Xenophanes]

  She'll be at TRL? That's what it says on vanessacarlton.info...

[Ghisy]

did you guys see the post rroo made at he's site and the o-board???

white houses video premiere on the 11th

YAY!!!  
Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait!!

[nessaRox]

I loved Abe's drumming on the BNN record!!!!!
He was awesome in Prince!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lord Star]

Have you guys visited the site of Blackvulture? There's a new update with the cover scan..... She looks so beautiful there... reminds me of Keira Knightley

[Will]

Since there is no "official" sheet music for White Houses, one way to get sheets for it would indeed be to convert the mp3 file into an midi file. I'm pretty sure that what 1vcfan is referring to is not creating an midi file from scratch; rather, converting an mp3 to an midi as one would do wav to wma, mp3 to wma, etc. This method does not require the notes, duration, etc. to be known beforehand.

That's all fine and well, except what you describe is nearly impossible. There are no programs out there currently that can do this. I'm somewhat of an expert in harmonic analysis and the mathematics behind it are quite hairy, not to mention quite computationally expensive and not entirely worked out.

You see, it's easy to convert a wav to wma and such. Those formats are just various ways to define a waveform. WAV is pcm, mp3 uses discrete cosine transforms, etc etc. However, MIDI DOES NOT REPRESENT A WAVEFORM. Sure, you can convert a .fin to a .mid. That's because they represent the kind of data. Sure you can go from mp3 to wav. That's because the format is a way of describing the same kind of data. However, midi describes how music is played. mp3 and such describe a specific sound. The latter doesn't care what the composition of the sound is. It's just recording vibrations. The former is devoted entirely to such things.

As of today, the only way you can turn a raw audio recording into a MIDI is by recording a MIDI performance or arranging a version of it in a composition program.

Please have half a clue before chiming in on this stuff.

However, good luck reading it. NoteWorthy Composer is the most readable midi to sheet music converter I've yet used, but it's still a right terror trying to play what it gives you, particularly if you're using a track with all the little editing and mixing bells and whistles that White Houses has.

That's a problem with the person who arranged the track, not the program. I will add, however, that noteworthy sucks. Finale is the best.

[Xenophanes]

There are no programs out there currently that can do this. I'm somewhat of an expert in harmonic analysis and the mathematics behind it are quite hairy, not to mention quite computationally expensive and not entirely worked out.

I think we're probably talking about separate things; or you're thinking reading too much into what I'm talking about :razz: ...there are indeed programs to convert wav files into midi files. Head over to download.com and search for them. However, they certainly don't give accurrate conversions of the original file; many sound hardly like the original thing. So I think what I'm trying to say is yes, you could turn the White Houses song file into an midi, but it wouldn't sound right and turning that midi into sheet music would not give you the true notes for the actual song.

I'm not at all an expert on sound files or what have you, but I do know that I've used programs that convert (though very poorly) from non-midi to midi.

[amberbeads]

I have a lyrical theory... maybe this is obvious but whatever i'm saying it anyway.
I think what's happening in WH is that she and four female friends are living together. In the beginning they have tons of fun and all that, but then they all fall for the same guy. When she says maybe i'm more clever than a girl like her, she is thinking about whether or not she's slick enough to get the guy before any of her friends do. So then she DOES get the guy, right, and he's really cute and stuff and they have sex.
but he turns out to be totally not worth it ("he's my first mistake") and basically ditches her. which explains the line we all fell in love and we all got hurt. vanessa gets hurt by the guy and the friends all get hurt because he doesn't want them. so then towards the end: maybe you were all faster than me/you give each other up so easily, this guy basically tore them all apart and now feel so far from where i've been she's just thinking about how they used to be so close and now they've totally split apart and then the rest is self-explanatory.
what think you?