Indulgences were crap. People didn't even brush their teeth in that day, how were they supposed to know about indulgences? OH! Right - Martin Luther, that guy who was a bitch about everything.
Do you understand the concept of selling indulgences? Basically, it meant that if I was rich I could go rape a 14 year old girl, but then pay the church 15,000 dollars and the little girls family a couple grand more and it was all ok.
Are you defending this idea? Does this in ANY way seem right?
- We were defending the Holy Land from the MUSLIMS - Hey! Isn't America fighting the Muslims and Iraq for . . . Oil? But oil is a hell of a lot more important than the Holy Land.
The crusades weren't DEFENDING anything. They were an attack. An attack over ego. The muslims weren't hurting the western religion's "holy lands". THey consider that area just as holy as we do.
- It's tradition, Andrew, the priesthood thing. Women do certain things, men do certain things. (I'm gonna get the shit yelled at me for that.) - Persecution of Science? Well, excusez-moi, but we/they persecute/d those who believe/d in all that scientific crap. We/They persecute/d those with seperate beliefs from ours/theirs. Now, what is half of America doing to the Church?
Tradition is not a reason to do something. Tradition is a weakness. Do something because it is RIGHT not because that is the way it has ALWAYS been done.
As for the whole gay thing, atleast the church is consistent. The church says sex should not be done for pleasure NO MATTER WHO it is with. That is their stance on being Gay and being straight. Sex if to have children, the end.
The church did more than just deny science. In times past, the church would persecute and kill scientists who exposed ideas about the universe (hello gallileo!) that the church did not like. The church may have set back human science hundreds of years.
Plus, i didn't say it was OK for people to persecute catholics. I never defended that notion. I am just saying what is WRONG with the catholic church. There is NO organized religion that i cannot pick apart for various reasons. They are all full of hypocrisy and BS.
So the Church has more influence than anyone and 'tis more intimidating, so let's go against it even though there are worse Churches that we should be complaining about . . . ?
Trust me. I complain about the southern baptists, the muslims, the jews, the fundamental christians, the luterans, the mormons (more than most!) and the Jehova's Witnesses. They all suck. I'm just lumping the catholics in there with them.
Edit @ CeCe - On a side note, the Church isn't getting sued BECAUSE their priests molested children. no no no no. Just like you said, the church is an employer and the church could use that as a defense. No. The church is getting sued because it KNEW about the incidents and COVERED THEM UP intentionally.
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